Political Correctness????

[Internet Theologian]

Here is the curriculum from the school in the last email response, green portions mine:

Hello,


We will be working on the following Grade Level Expectations for Guidance and Counseling in our small group.


Big Idea 1: PS1 Understanding Self as an Individual and as a Member of Diverse Local and Global Communities

wonder where A & B have gone, we skip right to C


C. Being a Contributing Memberof a Diverse Global Community

Identify character traits needed for different situations.


Big Idea 2: PS2 Interacting With Others in Ways That Respect Individual and Group Differences


A. Quality relationships

Demonstrate how to be a friend.

skip from A to C. Where did B go?


C. Personal Responsibility in Relationships

Identify feelings of others.


·We will learn how to join a game or activity

·How to deal with friends who say or do things that hurt our feelings

·How to listen to friends

·How to share and take turns.

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[InTheLight]

What email? She sent an email? Or, are you assuming again?

Yes, this email:
http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/political-correctness.99090/#post-2218764

Kindergartners make friends. They don't need taught how to do this.

Is this extra hours class on friendship for the entire class or is it for selected kids? Maybe there are a couple of kids that are acting aloof. Have you found this out yet? <provocative comment removed>

 

[Internet Theologian]

Yes, this email:
http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/political-correctness.99090/#post-2218764

Your response was about one sending an email about how to make friends. No such email was sent. Pay attention. This was all initiated by a sent letter. Do you know the difference between a letter and an email?

Is this extra hours class on friendship for the entire class or is it for selected kids?

I see, you haven't comprehended the thread and things stated. If you had you'd note this was already answered.

Maybe there are a couple of kids that are acting aloof.

Yes, that must be it!

ave you found this out yet?

Uh?

Or are you still cowering?

Gee, should I answer a fool according to his folly here, or do the other?

 

[Zaac]

What email? She sent an email? Or, are you assuming again?

Part of parenting is exactly as you said. We don't wait until Sunday. We have church and praise and worship God EVERYDAY with our families. At least we should.

When I send kids off to school who know Jesus, it's not just to gain book knowledge, but to do spiritual battle.

I, like you, have to know what's going on at school and in class so that I can teach, correct, rebuke and train in righteousness so that they are covered and READY when they leave this house. Because the enemy is going to try and kill, steal and destroy. And my job is to make sure they can withstand the arrows, and understanding that they take the One with them at ALL times who will fight their battles.

And if they aren't being taught Godly values, I'd rather the teaching of how to make and keep friends be left to me.

Because unless someone is IN Christ, our sole reason for befriending them has to be to point them to Christ.

So if social psychologists want to teach kids how to make and keep friends, they better teach them how to love Jesus because it is out of that overflow that we love our neighbors.

And if they aren't doing that, they can keep their little experiments to themselves.

And I STILL don't like the tone of that letter you got or the response. There's just something off about it.

 

[Internet Theologian]

Part of parenting is exactly as you said. We don't wait until Sunday. We have church and praise and worship God EVERYDAY with our families. At least we should.

I agree with this! Sunday is not the only day of worship at all.

When I send kids off to school who know Jesus, it's not just to gain book knowledge, but to do spiritual battle.

And they are trained for this daily by godly families, or at least should be.

I, like you, have to know what's going on at school and in class so that I can teach, correct, rebuke and train in righteousness so that they are covered and READY when they leave this house. Because the enemy is going to try and kill, steal and destroy. And my job is to make sure they can withstand the arrows, and understanding that they take the One with them at ALL times who will fight their battles.

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And if they aren't being taught Godly values, I'd rather the teaching of how to make and keep friends be left to me.

Because unless someone is IN Christ, our sole reason for befriending them has to be to point them to Christ.

So if social psychologists want to teach kids how to make and keep friends, they better teach them how to love Jesus because it is out of that overflow that we love our neighbors.

And if they aren't doing that, they can keep their little experiments to themselves.

And I STILL don't like the tone of that letter you got or the response. There's just something off about it.

I don't like it either. I sent a response about how unprofessional it is to leave off the points. I find it telling that we have professing believers on here belittling other believers because they desire to know what their children are being taught. They ridicule in the same manner as the lost world ridicules.

 

[carpro]

We received this letter from the school today where our Kindergartner attends:

Dear Parent:

I would like to invite your child to become a member of a kindergarten small group. We will work on making and keeping friends. The group will be co facilitated by (local University) Practicum student __________ and myself.

The group will meet once a week for about 30 minutes. We will meet six weeks during the school day at a time selected by your child's teacher. Your child will not miss core academic instruction.

Please complete the form below and return it to school as soon as possible. If you have questions, you may call me at ***-**** or email me at ___________________________.

Sincerely,

_____________
School Counselor
__________________
School Counselor Intern

**********************************************************************************************************

My wife presented me this letter to see what I thought. I googled the persons on the letter, all are social psychologists, fairly young as well, from the local University.

First I thought that it sounds like perhaps an indoctrination session of political correctness.

Secondly I thought of how typical kindergartners don't really have trouble making friends.

What are your thoughts?

Run!

 

[Don]

Here is the curriculum from the school in the last email response, green portions mine:
Hello,
We will be working on the following Grade Level Expectations for Guidance and Counseling in our small group.
Big Idea 1: PS1 Understanding Self as an Individual and as a Member of Diverse Local and Global Communities
wonder where A & B have gone, we skip right to C
C. Being a Contributing Memberof a Diverse Global Community
Identify character traits needed for different situations.
Big Idea 2: PS2 Interacting With Others in Ways That Respect Individual and Group Differences
A. Quality relationships
Demonstrate how to be a friend.
skip from A to C. Where did B go?
C. Personal Responsibility in Relationships
Identify feelings of others.
·We will learn how to join a game or activity
·How to deal with friends who say or do things that hurt our feelings
·How to listen to friends
·How to share and take turns.
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Hmmm....

The institution I work for has a standardized syllabus; there are certain items that must be on every faculty members' syllabus, such as the generic 7 General Education goals of the institution. Not all courses will address all 7 goals; but the syllabus identifies which of the 7 the course does address. The faculty member then tailors other sections with pertinent course information, such as textbook, grading, etc.

What they gave you sounds similar. Sounds like they have "general" goals in each area, but the study will only address certain of those goals (thus, why they left out A & B in one area, and left out B in another area, etc.).

HOWEVER - this is more of a course outline, rather than the curriculum. What you've posted here is a general outline of what the curriculum will cover, not the curriculum itself. If they haven't given you anything more than this, I would also ask for the learning strategies that will be employed, and any lesson plans, worksheets, materials, etc.

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As I continue to swirl this around in my head, it almost sounds like they're experimenting with a generalized curriculum that might be in a "proposal stage" on a much larger scale, and thus, why they're only looking at certain general goals rather than all of them....

 

[Internet Theologian]

Hmmm....

The institution I work for has a standardized syllabus; there are certain items that must be on every faculty members' syllabus, such as the generic 7 General Education goals of the institution. Not all courses will address all 7 goals; but the syllabus identifies which of the 7 the course does address. The faculty member then tailors other sections with pertinent course information, such as textbook, grading, etc.

What they gave you sounds similar. Sounds like they have "general" goals in each area, but the study will only address certain of those goals (thus, why they left out A & B in one area, and left out B in another area, etc.).

HOWEVER - this is more of a course outline, rather than the curriculum. What you've posted here is a general outline of what the curriculum will cover, not the curriculum itself. If they haven't given you anything more than this, I would also ask for the learning strategies that will be employed, and any lesson plans, worksheets, materials, etc.

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As I continue to swirl this around in my head, it almost sounds like they're experimenting with a generalized curriculum that might be in a "proposal stage" on a much larger scale, and thus, why they're only looking at certain general goals rather than all of them....

We've declined our child attending this class. Thanks for your insight.

 

[Internet Theologian]

For the record here, the reason I had gone anonymous in dealing with this is due to the fact we don't want our 6 year old being singled out. That's manhood, (and womanhood on the part of my wife) imo.

In other words the protection of our child, and prudently handling the situation, takes priority over whether or not I confront the person(s) face to face.

 

[InTheLight]

For the record here, the reason I had gone anonymous in dealing with this is due to the fact we don't want our 6 year old being singled out. That's manhood, (and womanhood on the part of my wife) imo.

In other words the protection of our child, and prudently handling the situation, takes priority over whether or not I confront the person(s) face to face.

Protection from what, exactly?

 

[Kevin]

It takes a Village to corrupt a child

 

[InTheLight]

I don't like it either. I sent a response about how unprofessional it is to leave off the points. I find it telling that we have professing believers on here belittling other believers because they desire to know what their children are being taught.

I feel as if this is directed at me. At no point did I belittle you for wanting to know what your child is being taught. I criticized you for not taking a direct approach and finding out, either via a phone call or a face-to-face meeting. I was, in fact, IMPLORING you to find out about the class. Sounds like you never found out what this class entails, after all.

They ridicule in the same manner as the lost world ridicules.

Ah, yes. You never disappoint. When cornered say that the person questioning you is not a Christian. We've seen this so many times here on BB, it's incredible. I wonder how many times you've questioned DHK's salvation? It's sickening.

 

[Kevin]

LOL! I call it fear.

Fear can be good. If it wasn't for the Fear of what might happen, I might listen to the voices in my head

 

[Zaac]

It takes a Village to corrupt a child

Corrupt or influence to act a certain way. It again sounds like an experiment for someone's dissertation. If I had a child in kindergarten, he'd be left behind if this were "required".Biggrin

 

[Kevin]

Corrupt or influence to act a certain way. It again sounds like an experiment for someone's dissertation. If I had a child in kindergarten, he'd be left behind if this were "required".Biggrin

I am glad I don't have any kids in school these days, and I am sort of relieved that they don't seem to be interested in having any of their own.

 

[Don]

Protection from what, exactly?

Not meaning to speak for IT; if you were asking me, I'd tell you "bias." Once the counselor and/or university people know which kid is mine, there's going to be a level of bias (as in, "that's the kid of the guy who sent us an email questioning our stuff"). Hopefully, they'd be professional enough to overcome that; but in my experience, very few people actually are.