Political debate

Persecution complex perhaps.

 

I seldom, if ever post that which I do not believe, contextually.

asinine things. Well that's nice.

 

Which is my argument against the death penalty.

Please continue to not get it, OK? It's fun to watch.

 

My positions are quite far to the right of yours from the threads I have seen. Your problem does not seem to be liberal or conservative, it seems to be not being sure where you stand, flip flopping back and forth, and tripping over your own words.

 

I recently posted my reasons for opposing the death penalty on a thread (now closed) on the News forum. So, I won't go into them in detail again. However, I think it is important to say that the conception of humanity that I read in scripture shows us to be finite sinful creatures of limited knowledge and abilities. Part of our sinfulness is a propensity to act in our own interest and to rationalize our actions. That can lead to the well-documented mistakes and abuses that have been committed in connection with death row inmates. The recent situation in Illinois led the governor to commute all death sentences before he left office in order to avoid the execution of an innocent person. Our sinfulness is the reason that I oppose capital punishment.

Tim Reynolds

 

Can you name even one innocent person who has been executed?

 

What about God sanctioning the death penalty in both the Old and New Testaments?

 

a: New Testament? and b: Is this a theocracy?

 

a: Romans 13:4 (ESV)
for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.

Acts 25:11 (ESV)
If then I am a wrongdoer and have committed anything for which I deserve to die, I do not seek to escape death. But if there is nothing to their charges against me, no one can give me up to them. I appeal to Caesar."

b: No. Neither was the Roman Empire.

 

I guess if I were to stand on one leg, lean over a bit, and try real hard, I could see those as a supporting text for capital punishment.

But only then.

 

Some of us don't lean, and see it just fine.

 

It's a matter of perspective. You've been taught from nine months before you were born that America is God's chosen country and that capital punishment is a God-given freedom.

Call me skeptical of that view.

 

My point exactly.

Things that are not intelligent. In my opinion, your viewpoint in this situation is lacking intelligence.

 

OK your next argument is that if we make even one mistake we've killed an innocent man and that is unacceptable. God Himself demands this corporal punishment, and with that directive is the knowledge (God's) that we will make some mistakes, but they will be few. Some will be executed wrongly, and the same God that demanded it is there to administer JUSTICE for that poor one. That is a comfort to me in siding with the death penalty.

 

That's nice Terry.

 

Is this the way you approach all scripture? I hope not, I hope you just made a mistake here.

 

Wow, hillclimber1:
Here is what I posted to you.

In post number 30, you responded with this:

Fair enough: I asked you a question, went out of my way to point out that I was asking you a question, and you answered it. Notice that I left it at that.

Then in post number 39, you offered this pathetic response:

1. This is abject fatuity, nothing more. I went out of my way to point out that I was asking you a question.
2. Well, let's see: first you answered my question, and when I left it at that, you re-responded with this pathetic post. This is intellectual dishonesty, as I did not turn anything into an accusation: I went out of my way to point out that I was asking you a question.

That really made you look foolish. Wow, hillclimber1, I'm embarrassed for you!

Regards anyway,
BiR

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Moderator Note: Please remember that personal attacks are against the posting rules. Thanks for your cooperation on the rest of this thread.

Lady Eagle

 

Here is a link to a web site for the Death Penalty Information Center. On the page I have linked click on the "Executed But Possibly Innocent" to get to a list of people who have been executed, but who have had doubts raised about their guilt. I make no claims about anyone's guilt or innocence. My only claim is that, because human beings are involved, the danger of an innocent person being executed is always present.

Tim Reynolds

www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=6&did=111#executed

 

I am with you on this, Tim: I dislike the death penalty for the same reason that I dislike abortion.

Wishing God's Blessings to you and yours,
BiR