Poll: Americans not happy about shutdown; more blame GOP

[Crabtownboy]

Get your facts straight: the Republican-held House sent forth a bill that funded the government, but not the ACA. The Democrat-controlled Senate said no. The Republican-controlled House then sent forth several bills to fund the government, including one to fund the NIH; the Democrat-controlled Senate said no, and the Democrat president is laying the blame for not funding NIH and the government on the House. The House is refusing to fund ONE part of the government budget; the Democrats keep saying "all or nothing."

Can you imagine what a mess we would have if you let a small group of radicals cherry pick ... in essence have a line item veto on the budget.

By the way, can you imagine what a mess we would be in if you let a small group of radicals cherry pick the budget ... in essence have a line item veto? That is what you are advocating.

Now if the Republicans controlled the Senate and the Executive Dept. and the Democrats the House and the Democrats were acting like the Republicans you would be screaming about the terrible Democrats.

You say you are Independent, but you surely are a Republican apologist. Be honest about it. Thanks in advance.

 

[Aaron]

I am constantly amazed at the foresight of our founding fathers, giving those who directly represent the people the power to stop a law the people do not want.

 

[Don]

Can you imagine what a mess we would have if you let a small group of radicals cherry pick ... in essence have a line item veto on the budget.

By the way, can you imagine what a mess we would be in if you let a small group of radicals cherry pick the budget ... in essence have a line item veto? That is what you are advocating.

You failed to address anything I actually said. Why is it that if the president exempts certain parts of a law, it's okay; but if House Republicans try to do it, it's "cherry picking" and wrong?

Further, it's COMPLETELY within the rights of the House to determine areas for which to appropriate funds. That's why they have annual appropriations bills. Things that are legal, within current law, have not received funding throughout the history of our country. Look up "legislation by appropriation."

Even, further, not appropriating funds does NOT mean that they are declaring a law no longer valid. The ACA has been authorized; funds have not been appropriated. In other words, the House has agreed that the ACA is legal; the current argument is about funds that support that law. Not providing funding does NOT mean the House is somehow "un-authorizing" the ACA.

Now if the Republicans controlled the Senate and the Executive Dept. and the Democrats the House and the Democrats were acting like the Republicans you would be screaming about the terrible Democrats.

You obviously haven't paid attention when I've recently talked about how sick and tired of the Senate Republicans I am...or when I used to rail against Bush and the Patriot Act...or any of a number of other times I've come out against Republicans.

You say you are Independent, but you surely are a Republican apologist. Be honest about it. Thanks in advance.

I'll be honest about this: I lean towards conservatism.

Economically speaking, the ACA is a train wreck and always has been; and I oppose it vehemently. THAT is my honest stance, and has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

There's a real poll here: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=89130&posted=1#post2037397

Proves CTB is, as usual, experiencing left-leaning daydream euphoria as opposed to living in reality.

 

[FollowTheWay]

I would ask that everyone ignore this lying Marxist's posts from now on.

Thank you.

The truth? You can't handle the truth.

 

[FollowTheWay]

You mean the guys who have passed five bills to keep the government open, only to have them refused by Reid and the Senate? The guys who have asked for discussions with the Great Pretender and the Senate for three weeks to avoid a shutdown? The guys who practiced the very tactics of compromise you claim they don't have, by giving several options by which the government could stay open and this disaster of a "health care plan" could be delayed at the very least before it destroys the economy? Those guys are the ones who are "non-compromising"? THOSE GUYS???

Oh, Lord help me ...

ObamaCare is less liberal than RomneyCare in MA. Please tell us what terrible things have happened in MA as a result of his health care law.