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Featured Poll- Do babies that die go to hell?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Winman, Aug 15, 2014.

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  1. All babies that die go to hell

    2.8%
  2. All babies that die go to heaven

    75.0%
  3. Elect babies go to heaven, non-elect babies go to hell

    8.3%
  4. Other, please explain

    13.9%
  1. percho

    percho Well-Known Member
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    We also have a picture of,"that," in Acts 2:27 thru 31 where Peter says David was speaking of the dead Jesus being departed to (Psalms 16:10) Sheol LXX ᾅδην Hades Acts 2:27 ᾅδου, Hades.

    And not being left there being he was resurrected.
     
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    Phil. 3:20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; 2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at HOME with the Lord. For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. Colossians 3:3 But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better; Philippians 1:23 "I go to prepare a place for you." John 14 Ephesians 2:19 fellow citizens with the saints, and members of God's household, Heaven is our Home for the Saints. But for the lost who ignore the Lord.......Hell.
     
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    Phil 3:20... you need to understand the concept of "citizenship" in the ancient world, especially Roman citizenship. E.g. Roman citizenship was not to return to Rome (don't think of American citizenship the same way) but extend Rome to the world, for that is the glory of Rome (so it was thought). The salvation of Roman was peace to the world (Pax Romana). That was the mindset of Paul and citizenship. He was governed by God and spread his rule to the world.

    2 Cor. 5:8... the word "home" is not in the text per se but is part of a verb which does not necessitate what you are requiring. Study this out a bit more here.

    Col. 3:3... really???

    Phil. 1:23... to be with Jesus is far better, no argument here. But especially when he returns to this earth, resurrects the dead, and restores creation... HERE on earth!!!

    John 14:3... considering the theology of John and the temple, this is not even a reference of heaven... as in "my father's house" or Bethel (house of God) or temple

    Eph. 2:19... really again???

    Follow the story of Scripture:
    God walked w/ Adam & Eve ON EARTH
    God dwelled w/ Israel in the ark of the covenant in the temple ON EARTH
    God lived w/ Israel in the temple ON EARTH
    Jesus as Emmanuel is not us with God but God with us... ON EARTH
    The church is the temple of God, the Spirit living within us... ON EARTH
    New Creation concludes this story with Rev. 21:3, ""Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them..." or in this case a re-created paradise superior to Eden... ON EARTH
     
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    The key to Phil 1:23 is verse 20. According to my earnest expectation and hope.

    earnest expectation is found twice in the word, here and in Romans 8:19 NKJV
    For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

    Exactly when is that earnest expectation? The resurrection/instant change of the saints. The blessed hope of Paul was the coming of the Lord.
     
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