The war on terror is not just against OLB.Originally posted by Pennsylvania Jim:
Well, I admit it would have been a lot simpler that ripping apart an entire country that had little or nothing to do with the attack.
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The war on terror is not just against OLB.Originally posted by Pennsylvania Jim:
Well, I admit it would have been a lot simpler that ripping apart an entire country that had little or nothing to do with the attack.
My brother died as a result of Agent Orange in Viet Nam. It hurts, my friend, still. I only brought it up because you implied that I hold a position that intentionally hurts troops.</font>[/QUOTE]Yes, I did, because that is the way I see it. Your brother's death is indeed tragic and I am sorry for your loss and all that, but you're insisting that I campare apples to ball peen hammers. Your position intentionally hurts the troops. Period.Originally posted by Pennsylvania Jim:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by tragic_pizza:
When is the last time you actually looked at the points of our argument rather than deciding to play the martyr card and take everything personally?
Perhaps because it sounds like you are playing the martyr. I have no idea otherwise. Again, this is how it appears to me.I've felt the results of war, and it brings me to be rather defensive of our milirary people.
You call my hurt and sorrow "playing a martyr". I wonder why the moderators snip a few angry words, yet allow this sort of gross unkindness to stand.
I'm ok, but if your heart is that hard, I feel sorry for you.
You addressed nothing. And if by "grow up," you mean "act and think like Pennsylvania Jim," thank you, no.By the way, I have addressed the points of our argument, but you responded with snotty, childish, hurtful remarks. Grow up.
No, the "war on terror" was drawn up by the neo-con's in the Bush administration years before he was ever elected. The "war on terror" is Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc. OLB was added after 9/11, which just happend to be the "catastrophic and catalysing event - like a new Pearl Harbor" they were waiting for, in order to "bang the drums of war" and start this "war on terror".Originally posted by ballfan:
The war on terror is not just against OLB.
No, the "war on terror" was drawn up by the neo-con's in the Bush administration years before he was ever elected. The "war on terror" is Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc. OLB was added after 9/11, which just happend to be the "catastrophic and catalysing event - like a new Pearl Harbor" they were waiting for, in order to "bang the drums of war" and start this "war on terror".Originally posted by JGrubbs:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ballfan:
The war on terror is not just against OLB.
Yeah, hardshell, big whoop until some contingency actually happens, then it automatically equals conspiracy... but only, of course, if you happen to be teh bu54.Originally posted by Hardsheller:
All administrations have contingency plans for all kinds of stuff that never happens. Big Whoop!
The first link seems sound enough and looks like the people on it have some common sense.Originally posted by JGrubbs:
When the same neo-cons make the "contingency plans" for foriegn policy in the 70s, 80s and 90s and all end up in the GOP adminstration that carries out those "plans" it's not consipracy, just a fact that they have an agenda.
Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is a neo-conservative think-tank that promotes an ideology of total U.S. world domination.
The group's core ideas are expressed in a 95-page report produced for Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, and Lewis Libby entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century.
The founding members of PNAC have been the descision makers in the GOP since the 1970's, I don't call it a conspiracy, just a fact of politics.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/
http://www.pnac.info/
Then we should have deployed a nuclear bomb on Sept. 12th? </font>[/QUOTE]On the 12th we didn't know whoOriginally posted by dianetavegia:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Pennsylvania Jim:
We should mind our own business, and if someone attacks us, turn their country into molten glass, people and all. It would only happen once.