Polynesian Rosary Beads

[rockytopva]

I had bought the black pacific pearls from a vendor in Nuka Hiva, French Polynesia for around $20. The pearls were great but the necklace rope itself was of poor quality and eventually broke. I bought a Catholic, "Gunmetal Military Rosary - WWI Service Combat Rosary" on EBay and had a local jeweler recreate the necklace. Turned out real nice! I am real pleased!

I don’t pray the rosary, or to the Mother Mary, don’t call any man on earth father, frown on priest celibacy.... but the image of the cross is something I hold dear.

 

[robycop3]

Matthew 6:7 “And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.
We are not heard because of our many words but because of long hard words in faith. We are heard because of our faith.
Gentile means (non believer -heathen) .He is referring to nonbelievers not believers who are to do LONG hard prayers. This is what I mean jezebel you have not the Holy Spirit therefore can not understand the language of scripture. The meaningless, repetitious prayer of the non believer is one of those works outside of faith. The many words of the Rosary are scriptural and you can never do too much of repeating those and is a long hard prayer in faith.

Ephesians 6:18
18 In the same way, prayer is essential in this ongoing warfare. (Pray hard and long). Pray for your brothers and sisters. Keep your eyes open. Keep each other's spirits up so that no one falls behind or drops out.

The scriptures can not be BROKEN . I am correct because I do not contradict either scriptural verses . I keep the scriptures one as God is one. Context is important to understand. And God is the interpreter and author of His Word.

The Rosary is a long hard prayer in which we ask all of heaven to pray for us, beginning with the profession of faith. The word (universal) in that, simply means all of the universal consensus 'I believe in the Holy Spirit ONE Holy (universal) Apostolic Church-The Church established by Christ through His apostles. And all who believe in that are all of one universal belief: affecting, or done by all people or things in the world or in a particular group; applicable to all cases.
So this universal consensus is applicable in all cases of believers of our particular group.

Which is upholding the teachings of Jesus Christ. That ,(should) span across denominational lines. It is simply all agreeing upon the Profession of faith in Christ. It is that Hard Long prayer that helps brothers and sisters . There is NOT one thing in it that is not true. And is not the meaningless =(faithless prayer of the gentiles). When you become a believer you are Hebrew= Traversed One. That is what Hebrew means. You come from one side of things (river) to the other side . You leave behind you former life as Abraham did. You are circumcised in heart, spirit and mind. You are no longer a gentile. Gentile simply means Non-believer and heathen. The Holy Spirit has blessed me in understanding origin and meaning of words. That is why there is no Greek, Jew, male and female but simply The Spirit of Christ and all are Hebrew in Him= Traversed Ones in Him.

So clearly, the Rosary is not one of those MEANINGLESS prayers , but a LONG HARD prayer, which is meant to fight long and hard against satan.

More GOOFINESS!

Jesus was speaking to His disciples when He said the words of Matt. 6-7, and not about non-believers in God at all. He was mostly referring to Pharisees & their homeboys, who made long, loud, repetitious prayers.

And if one is praying, one should think about what he/she is saying. When one chants the same mantra over & over that someone else wrote, one is just acting from habit, with no thought about what the words mean. And the rosary is just that-a mantra in the manner of Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, etc. along with their prayer wheels.

 

[robycop3]

Why repeat the rosary? It's not even one's OWN prayer, and God hears a prayer the first time; the 99 repetitions of it are unnecessary.

 

[Revmitchell]

Matthew 6:7 “And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.
We are not heard because of our many words but because of long hard words in faith. We are heard because of our faith.
Gentile means (non believer -heathen) .He is referring to nonbelievers not believers who are to do LONG hard prayers. This is what I mean jezebel you have not the Holy Spirit therefore can not understand the language of scripture. The meaningless, repetitious prayer of the non believer is one of those works outside of faith. The many words of the Rosary are scriptural and you can never do too much of repeating those and is a long hard prayer in faith.

(And when you are praying,) The you is the disciples, (do not use meaningless repetition) This exhortation was to the disciples, (as the Gentiles do) This is a comparison to gentiles not a command directly to them but intended for the disciples. Jesus was comparing the pharisees show boating their "spirituality" in front of people to look very "spiritual". Calling your repetition "long hard prayers" does not make it ok.

 

[Adonia]

Why repeat the rosary? It's not even one's OWN prayer, and God hears a prayer the first time; the 99 repetitions of it are unnecessary.

Reading the Holy Scriptures is a prayer in itself, so if you read it more than once are you not also guilty of the crime of repetition? But really, If there is something serious in your life that has taken over your mind, what better way to force it out of one's mind than to say prayer's with words and phrases in them like "Our Father", the "Lord is with Thee" and "Jesus" over and over again in a formed prayer, words which come directly from the scriptures. Aren't we supposed to meditate on the various event's that happened in the Savior's life anyway? Any opposition about this prayer is much ado about nothing.

 

[Adonia]

(And when you are praying,) The you is the disciples, (do not use meaningless repetition) This exhortation was to the disciples, (as the Gentiles do) This is a comparison to gentiles not a command directly to them but intended for the disciples. Jesus was comparing the pharisees show boating their "spirituality" in front of people to look very "spiritual". Calling your repetition "long hard prayers" does not make it ok.

Okay, so if one is not "showboating" in front of others, would that be okay? The rosary is a virtual "going through" of the main events of the salvation narrative concerning Jesus Christ listed in the Bible. Is that not profitable to the believer in your mind either?

 

[Adonia]

MMRRPP ! WRONG !

While rosary beads may be things of beauty & of sentimental value to some, as objects of worship or as prayer assistants, they're mere idols.

The Buddhists do the very same things with their prayar beads !

You folks don't even have an altar in your churches, why, is that an idol too? There is nothing wrong with having things that help focus the mind on Christ.

 

[Adonia]

Thanx, but I'd guessed as much, as you're a FORMER RC. I have an old crucifix given to me by an RC friend when we were boys, & neither of us had worshipped it.

Good, we don't worship inanimate objects either.

 

[Adonia]

Saw a Baptist pastor kneeling in front of a chair with a bible on it. Saddened me to see him worshipping that chair and bible.

Yes, it could be easily said that they (Baptists) worship a book with words in it. It's certainly not us that follow the doctrine of "Sola Scriptura".

 

[OfLivingWaters]

More GOOFINESS!

Jesus was speaking to His disciples when He said the words of Matt. 6-7, and not about non-believers in God at all. He was mostly referring to Pharisees & their homeboys, who made long, loud, repetitious prayers.

And if one is praying, one should think about what he/she is saying. When one chants the same mantra over & over that someone else wrote, one is just acting from habit, with no thought about what the words mean. And the rosary is just that-a mantra in the manner of Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, etc. along with their prayer wheels.

.......meanwhile back in reality. No kidding , Christ was speaking to His disciples and told them to not be like the Gentile. And yes the gentile had not yet received the gospel of Jesus Christ. But once they did, through time, men built doctrines from what they deduce from scripture. Now you not only compared the Mother of Christ to the goddesses of devils, you said the scriptures that the children of God meditate on is just like a pagan mantra. Do you drink before you post?

How can that which is simply that Long hard prayer for others, be a pagan mantra??? And still I am correct about the meaning of Gentile. And once grafted into the Original Tree you are Hebrew in Spirit. And that is right , the Pharisees made long repetitious prayers like blowing out air because they were meaningless works of the flesh. But IN FAITH , we are called to do long , hard prayer on behalf of others. Learn to read.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Why repeat the rosary? It's not even one's OWN prayer, and God hears a prayer the first time; the 99 repetitions of it are unnecessary.

No one said you can not talk to God with ones own words. The Rosary is to focus your mind and thoughts , (when they are assailed) , on Christ's life. Obviously your mind has been assailed and your right reason overthrown, when you condemn a righteous prayer.

There is no sin in saying the Rosary and never will be. But what is a sin is your jank doctrine which condemns Christians who do say it. And likens, meditating on the life of Christ to praying a mantra to pagan gods. As for inanimate objects, what??? it is a tool in which to focus on prayer, I just keep track with my fingers when I can not find my Rosary beads.
Questions: do you have an American flag hanging outside of your house? Do you say the pledge of allegiance ? Go wait in the truck!

Do you honor fallen military hero's, do you believe in a memorial service (Day) for them? As I said , go wait in the truck!
Do you hope and pray- their souls be in repose? You should , according to your own doctrine, STOP DOING THAT. The flag is a nations symbol , not heavens,the pledge of allegiance is a pledge to a flag which represents the corrupt precepts of men which is hypocrisy . Not even the Jews of Christ's time would have given such honor to Caesar . Whose stars and stripes are on the flag? "He who holds the stars in His hand and walks amidst the seven golden lampstands" -Sorry the stars in His hand are the angels, and the American flag does not represent Christ's stripes, by which we are healed. Some people can not get out of their own way, nor out of the way of TRUE Christians. keep condemning Christian practices. Oh and what's that on your shirt in your forum photo? No doubt the image of an idol, that you sport and idolize! People.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Yes, it could be easily said that they (Baptists) worship a book with words in it. It's certainly not us that follow the doctrine of "Sola Scriptura".

I do follow scripture alone. How else can one correct false doctrine? Scripture alone and the Holy Spirit is what we need to give edification. Adonia, you do not see that? What I see is that these Baptist claim scripture alone but do not even believe it.
Matthew 15:7-9
Tradition and Worship
…7You hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you: 8‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’”…

The yell Scripture Alone, Scripture Alone, yet when a practice / doctrine is clearly pointed out to be supported by scripture, they actually mean, Scripture alone as my sect sees, as scripture supports only my doctrinal father's precepts. They only honor God with their lips not their hearts. If they honored God for real They would love all TRUTH. They are just as those who do meaningless, repetitious multiplying of words before God. It is all lip service , it is not actually believed, (Sola Scriptura).

 

[Revmitchell]

Okay, so if one is not "showboating" in front of others, would that be okay? The rosary is a virtual "going through" of the main events of the salvation narrative concerning Jesus Christ listed in the Bible. Is that not profitable to the believer in your mind either?

Not the way yall do it no

 

[OfLivingWaters]

See the sad thing is, all the denominations have some replacement theology. The Baptist replace , that God the Father exalts the lowly, with- I exalt myself over what His word says. They refuse to outdo themselves in honoring all (People) in Christ as scripture tells us we must do. They like, therefore, to give themselves the glory, when it is not to ones own flesh(doctrines of men) that the glory comes from and goes. It is To Him, In Him and from Him that there is Glory Alone. To honor one in Christ who gives all glory to God the Father is to honor what the WORD decrees. That honor therefore , is to give Glory to God alone!

The Baptist practice replacement theology, all the while condemning everyone else. No doubt there is SOME replacement theology is the Queens, but the Baptist ,they have removed most all TRUTH.
James 2:9-11
A Warning against Favoritism
…9But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10Whoever keeps the whole Law but stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.…
1 John 3:15
15Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that eternal life does not reside in a murderer.

Adonia , refuses to believe in the Anthem Scripture alone because it is not upheld by the RCC, the baptist simply give lip service concerning it. But the scriptures alone state - that the scriptures are profitable for doctrine, correction , teaching and directing a man in all righteousness, that the man of God be fully equipped for every good work. GOOD WORK- God's work= works in FAITH, not man's own works (Precepts) which are simply devilish and are an attempt at replacing God with men.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Not the way yall do it no

So how should "yall" do it? And while you are at it please point out what is untrue about the Rosary. The haters will never get it, even when scripture will be used to support the Rosary by me. But why don't you take a whack at it, prove the Rosary is false, you haven't thus far.

So far all that is proven is , it is one of those LONG HARD PRAYERS which is not a meaningless repetition of words done by nonbelievers or Pharisees who do not actual believe in Christ..

Have at it Mitch. Prove the Rosary a hoax.

 

[Revmitchell]

So how should "yall" do it? And while you are at it please point out what is untrue about the Rosary. The haters will never get it, even when scripture will be used to support the Rosary by me. But why don't you take a whack at it, prove the Rosary is false, you haven't thus far.

So far all that is proven is , it is one of those LONG HARD PRAYERS which is not a meaningless repetition of words done by nonbelievers or Pharisees who do not actual believe in Christ..

Have at it Mitch. Prove the Rosary a hoax.

You have yet to prove its scriptural. Calling it a long hard prayer Dont make it so. Second prauing to mary is unscriptural. Neither is she holy in the way God is holy. Praying to anyone but God is idolatry.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

rev·er·end
/ˈrev(ə)rənd/


adjective
adjective: reverend
1.
used as a title or form of address to members of the clergy.
noun
1.
a member of the clergy.
Origin

Origin

late Middle English: from Old French, or from Latin reverendus ‘person to be revered’, gerundive of revereri

HMMMM, that's interesting.

The Reverend is an honorific style most often placed before the names of Christian clergy and ministers. There are sometimes differences in the way the style is used in different countries and church traditions.

Huh!
Yet Mother Mary is not to be revered? And it is wrong to repeat what was said By an Arch Angel and a Holy Sister , prompted by the Holy Spirit? That's even more interesting.

re·vere
past tense: revered; past participle: revered
feel deep respect or admiration for (something).
synonyms:respect, admire, think highly of, have a high opinion of, hold in high regard, esteem, hold in (high) esteem, think much of, approve of, appreciate, cherish, value, set (great) store by, prize, treasure, look up to;

I know in the scriptures Mary is Hailed as and called: Highly favored. Is told the Lord is with you(her). She is called Blessed among women and the fruit of her womb is blessed. But she is not to be highly honored for this exalting from God for her. But people have the audacity to call themselves Reverends etc.....

For sure, I see how this should concern Christ and His Mother (Wedding Feast at Canaan), many people have gone to hell and are, for such things of their denominations. This should concern all, for it concerns the souls of men.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

You have yet to prove its scriptural. Calling it a long hard prayer Dont make it so. Second prauing to mary is unscriptural. Neither is she holy in the way God is holy. Praying to anyone but God is idolatry.

Sure I did, the fact is you have not proven it is NOT scriptural actually. Deflection on your part does not make what I said untrue. But so far you have not provided any truth for your claim.

 

[Revmitchell]

Sure I did, the fact is you have not proven it is NOT scriptural actually. Deflection on your part does not make what I said untrue. But so far you have not provided any truth for your claim.

Good luck with that

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Good luck with that

No luck needed I have God on my side.