prenuptial agreement

[agedman]

For the world it makes no difference, but for those who claim to follow Christ it does. A marriage is to make the two one. Prenups keep that from happening. If you cannot trust the person you are about to marry then don't marry them. What is hers is his and what is his is hers. Prenups is just another variation of the world in the church.

Making two - one does not have the same meaning that you intend it to be. I don't intend to go into that discussion on this thread.

In Christ's day and up until the 20th century, the women had very few legal rights and assets. What they held was considered their husbands after marriage.

I agree with 12strings that older couples who have had established extended families do perhaps prenup agreements if no more than to keep care over the widow and away from selfish children. If no prenup at least a will that is up to date.

I like that bumper sticker that claims, "I'm spending my children's inheritance."

 

[freeatlast]

Making two - one does not have the same meaning that you intend it to be. I don't intend to go into that discussion on this thread.

In Christ's day and up until the 20th century, the women had very few legal rights and assets. What they held was considered their husbands after marriage.

I agree with 12strings that older couples who have had established extended families do perhaps prenup agreements if no more than to keep care over the widow and away from selfish children. If no prenup at least a will that is up to date.

I like that bumper sticker that claims, "I'm spending my children's inheritance."

I prefer she was given me by God and I trust Him so I trust her. What is mine is hers and what is hers is mine. If I go first I trust that she ill do the right thing and if she goes first I will do the right thing. If we go together we have a will.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

I would say this wraps it up pretty well:

We encourage couples planning on getting married not to do a prenup. It creates too many problems for a marriage:

1. Beginning in distrust
2. A planned defensive strategy against your spouse
3. Represents an exit strategy for your marriage

Just our opinion, but they are a bad idea.

And I also can appreciate what 12strings says here:

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In general for younger people getting married, I would say it is a very bad idea.

However, for older people who have already been married, had children, and been divorced or widowed...a prenup that declares whose children will get what assets makes it much easier when one of them passess away. For example, my wife's grandmother passed away in her 80's. The grandfather remarried, then died 3 years later. They had pre-decided, that if he died, his children and grandchildren would inherit the farmland to sell, and some other financial assets he had built up over time. the new wife's children would not get half... They also decided that the wife WOULD get to keep the house, so she would not be without a place to live when he died. This prevented any kind of inheritance battle between the 2 families.

This seems reasonable as well, for the reason I bolded:

I would add this: My wife and I have no pre-nup and we discussed it previously: In our marriage vows, we intentionally chose these old - school Anglican vows: "with this ring, I thee wed; with my body, I thee worship; and all my worldly goods, I thee endow"
We chose these older Anglican vows as part of our ceremony because we loved the Theological signifigance of them, and they expressed something about this very topic...financially, all that we owned now belonged unreservedly to the other...
I also added to my personal vows: along with the "love" "honor" "forsaken all others" part "to provide" as we felt that the Scriptures teach that a man is responsible to "provide for his own" and we sort of felt that that ought to be part of the promise any husband should make to his wife in their vows.

 

[annsni]

Not before you are married and if you wait until after they are married it is too late in many states because of pre-existing laws.

You write your will before you are married. It's simple!! If my husband were to die, and I remarry, I would have already had in my will that my estate goes to my children should my first husband die. That is in place. If I pass away after remarrying, my children STILL receive my estate unless I've rewritten it.

 

[freeatlast]

You write your will before you are married. It's simple!! If my husband were to die, and I remarry, I would have already had in my will that my estate goes to my children should my first husband die. That is in place. If I pass away after remarrying, my children STILL receive my estate unless I've rewritten it.

But this is about prenups.

 

[annsni]

Prenuptial Agreements are much less common here than they seem to be in America. But as I understand it, such agreements are about how assets should be divided in the case of divorce. I cannot see from Scripture that God intends engaged couples to enter marriage having already made preparations for divorce!

Yes I agree, but they also deal with how to divide the assets if one dies rather then giving everything to the spouse.

I'm no lawyer, but couldn't that be done by making a will?

You make a will after you are married. :BangHead:

You write your will before you are married. It's simple!! If my husband were to die, and I remarry, I would have already had in my will that my estate goes to my children should my first husband die. That is in place. If I pass away after remarrying, my children STILL receive my estate unless I've rewritten it.

But this is about prenups.

No, it we are responding to the idea of assets after death. THAT is dealt with in a will - not just a prenup. Whether it is before or after marriage, a will takes care of assets on death. A prenup COULD deal with them but you don't need to wait until after you are married to write a will. It could very well be written before.