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President-Elect Obama Marxist?

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JustChristian

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Bible-boy said:
There is not a dime's worth of differnece between the President elect Obama's political positions, political philosophies, and political ideas and those of Mrs. Clinton. So the proposed Secretary of State is also a Socialist. That one. Same goes for VP select Biden his name appears on the Obama website right next to Obama's under their proposed plans for the government. That's two.

Why don't you just extend that to every Democrat in the United States and save us some time?
 

Bible-boy

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JustChristian said:
Why don't you just extend that to every Democrat in the United States and save us some time?

I suppose you would like it if I did because then you'd be able to cry that I had made a personal attack against you as a Democrat. However, I have never attempted to make that argument. Why haven't I? Because that would not be a fair assessment. However, it is a fair assessment of the stated political positions, political philosophies, and political ideas of Mrs. Clinton and President-elect Obama and V.P. elect Biden.

Now given the fact that this thread has reached 11 pages and no one has been able to give any creditable evidence that suggests that President-elect Obama is not a Socialist (as opposed to the pages of evidence that he is a Socialist) I'd say that it should be completely acceptable for us to refer to him as such.
 
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Revmitchell

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Bible-boy said:
I suppose you would like it if I did because then you'd be able to cry that I had made a personal attack against you as a Democrat. However, I have never attempted make that argument. Why haven't I? Because that would not be a fair assessment. However, it is a fair assessment of the stated political positions, political philosophies, and political ideas of Mrs. Clinton and President-elect Obama.

Now given the fact that this thread has reached 11 pages and no one has been able to give any creditable evidence that suggests that President-elect Obama is not a Socialist (as opposed to the pages of evidence that he is a Socialist) I'd say that it should be completely acceptable for us to refer to him as such.

You would think that a case could be made to show how Obama is not in agreement with communism. Instead false accusations of attacks are leveled.
 

KenH

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Bible-boy said:
I'd say that it should be completely acceptable for us to refer to him as such.

And you can refer to me as a socialist since I approve of programs such as Social Security and Medicare.
 

JustChristian

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Bible-boy said:
I suppose you would like it if I did because then you'd be able to cry that I had made a personal attack against you as a Democrat. However, I have never attempted to make that argument. Why haven't I? Because that would not be a fair assessment. However, it is a fair assessment of the stated political positions, political philosophies, and political ideas of Mrs. Clinton and President-elect Obama and V.P. elect Biden.

Now given the fact that this thread has reached 11 pages and no one has been able to give any creditable evidence that suggests that President-elect Obama is not a Socialist (as opposed to the pages of evidence that he is a Socialist) I'd say that it should be completely acceptable for us to refer to him as such.

Would you "cry" if I called you a Fascist?
 

Bible-boy

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JustChristian said:
Would you "cry" if I called you a Fascist?

Of course because it is not true and you could not use anything that I have posted on the BB as evidence that would suggest otherwise.

Additionally, I have not called you anything. I have referred to Obama as a Socialist and I have provided ample evidence with sources and links to back up that claim.
 

KenH

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Bible-boy said:
I have referred to Obama as a Socialist and I have provided ample evidence with sources and links to back up that claim.

Anyone who approves of programs or receives money from programs such as Social Security or Medicare is a socialist.
 

Bible-boy

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KenH said:
And you can refer to me as a socialist since I approve of programs such as Social Security and Medicare.

Okay, so why do we get a knee-jerk reaction from you when we refer to President elect Obama as a Socialist?
 

Bible-boy

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KenH said:
Anyone who approves of programs or receives money from programs such as Social Security or Medicare is a socialist.

In your opinion. However, that assessment is open to debate.
 

KenH

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Bible-boy said:
However, that assessment is open to debate.

Not really. It is undeniable that programs such as Social Security and Medicare are socialistic in nature.
 

KenH

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Revmitchell said:
If Obama is not a communist then tell us how many of these positions does he oppose?

Fine, then, Pastor Mitchell. I admit that Barack is a communist and so am I.

Are you happy now?
 

Bible-boy

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KenH said:
Not really. It is undeniable that programs such as Social Security and Medicare are socialistic in nature.

Yes really, because those two limited examples do not encompass all of Socialism or a Socialist political agenda.
 
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Bible-boy

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KenH said:
Fine, then, Pastor Mitchell. I admit that Barack is a communist and so am I.

Are you happy now?

:D:thumbs: :wavey: Glad to see ya admit it.... (that Obama is a Communist).
 
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Bible-boy

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KenH said:
I don't recall objecting to calling Barack a socialist. I objected to calling Barack a Communist or a Marxist. Those terms are not the same as socialist as we use the term politically in the United States.

However, if you want to call me a Communist or a Marxist to satisfy some name-calling fetish, go ahead, make my day. :)

Well since the Communist Party USA calls its published political agenda the "Bill of Rights Socialism" and President elect Obama agrees with at least 90% of it I'd say Socialist and Communist pretty much in this sense mean the same thing.
 
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