Reformed1689
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It does make sense. You implied that Trump cannot be Christian because you don't see fruit but sin. Granted you are not with him 24/7. So can someone not be saved and struggle with sin?
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President now identifies as ‘non-denominational Christian’
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SavedByGrace
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his own words and actions tell who he really is. You think that he really "knows" the Lord?
Reformed1689
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Is that for you to judge? What is required for salvation? Does it mean he has to be perfect? And I'm not necessarily saying he is. I am saying I don't know. But you have been coming at this emotionally. You do not know the man.
SavedByGrace
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complete rubbish! The man is in the public, and there is much that he himself has said and done, anyone can make a vaild judgement from this. salvation is when a sinner recognises their sin and condemnation, before the Holy God of the Bible, and comes to Him in faith, and confesses their sin and trusts in the Lord Jesus Christ. Just because a person might support the party he is in, should not be reason to ignore DT's morality, which should be an important factor.
Reformed1689
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Of the two options that you have, which is better? Joe Biden or Donald Trump? Of the two options, who is doing more to protect Christianity? Joe Biden or Donald Trump? Of the two options that you have, who is doing more to protect the unborn? Joe Biden or Donald Trump?
The answer to ALL of those questions is Donald Trump.
And if you think you have a third option, you don't. That is a wasted vote, or worse, a non-vote.
SavedByGrace
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its your vote after all. I won't bother as both are dodgy characters!
Reformed1689
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Then you are part of the problem. If they win, you are responsible for what happens to this country.
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SavedByGrace
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firstly I live in good old England! secondly, why am I despicable, if I don't like either person as an outsider? thirdly, if JB wins, it is more than likely the Righteous Judgement of God on the USA, as even the churches there are more unbiblical these days, teaching the great heresy that a hell-bound sinner need not repent before they can get saved!
Reformed1689
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Then STAY OUT OF OUR BUSINESS!
SavedByGrace
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wow, you Americans are so pompous! for someone to share their views, cannot do so, because they don't agree with you? You guys deserve the person that you get!
We get the same sentiments when we Americans chime in on the British political scene. Which personally, I am a Scottish Nationalist\Monarchist. That means I'm pro an independent Scotland under a Stuart heir as monarch. How's that for convoluted politics?
Why are you, a Brit, the #1 poster over the day, the week, the month?! Why are you here posting non stop? What is your objective? Do I need to block you to get some peace & quiet? If you cared anything about us you would stop being inflammatory. You’re like a barking chihuahua constantly nipping at our heels. Who needs it?
SavedByGrace
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this is firstly a Christian forum, which has current news, what is the problem with anyone posting comments anywhere on a free, open forum? Are you guys only interested in views that you support? very narrow minded!
Reformed1689
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No, but you also have no business commenting on our candidates and our elections and telling us why we should vote certain ways.this is firstly a Christian forum, which has current news, what is the problem with anyone posting comments anywhere on a free, open forum? Are you guys only interested in views that you support? very narrow minded!
SavedByGrace
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I have expressed opinions, like I also do on other threads! You guys are so touchy about things! If you don't like opinions that disagree with you, then maybe go on some private, closed forum!
Reformed1689
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Oh I can take it, but you are flat wrong in this instance. AND it's none of your business.
Reformed1689
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Seems to me you are the touchy one since we Americans don't care an ounce about what the Brits opinions are of our politics.
SavedByGrace
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what is wrong with you? I am not interested in whether you guys "care an ounce" in what I say! All I do is to express MY opinions on a PUBLIC forum! And you are supposed to be a "Author, Teacher, Husband"!!! Wow!
SbG, you wouldn't have as much push back if you'd at least start your commentaries by writing "As a British resident and subject\citizen, ......" That would cause us Americans to see where you're coming from. On a side note, as I understand the situation, most British conservatives (including Dame Thatcher) were/are comfortable with the NHS. Something that is all but anathema to American conservatives. So, there is a bit of philosophical difference between the two movements.
SavedByGrace
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thanks, I agree. I know it is hard as an "outsider" to comment of another countries internal affairs. I have never understood why free-for-all health care is not seen as a good thing for American conservatives? As a conservative myself, I think that it affordable, it is a great thing.