President Obama's Christmas message centres on...

[Mexdeaf]

I don't like the Roman church word Christ-mass myself either.

Anyway - he did talk about the Christian message of loving God and loving others. Imagine what would happen to poverty if only true Christians applied that to their lives.

Then many 'poor' people would have to stop taking advantage of others.

 

[targus]

I don't like the Roman church word Christ-mass myself either.

Anyway - he did talk about the Christian message of loving God and loving others. Imagine what would happen to poverty if only true Christians applied that to their lives.

You need to go back and read your OP because it doesn't say anything about that.

It only says that Obama's message was centered on Christ...

But it isn't.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

You need to go back and read your OP because it doesn't say anything about that.

It only says that Obama's message was centered on Christ...

But it isn't.

Obviously I disagree.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Then many 'poor' people would have to stop taking advantage of others.

That is not our responsibility. We are too feed the poor and clothe the needy. What a difference we could make if we did.

The president is right here.

 

[Mexdeaf]

That is not our responsibility. We are too feed the poor and clothe the needy. What a difference we could make if we did.

The president is right here.

It IS your responsibility if you are a Christian and 'poor'. That was my point. there's too many self-proclaimed Christian charity cases out there.

 

[Aaron]

Imagine what would happen to poverty if only true Christians applied that to their lives.

Nothing would happen to it. The poor you will always have with you—Jesus.

 

[targus]

That is not our responsibility. We are too feed the poor and clothe the needy. What a difference we could make if we did.

The president is right here.

You need to put it into context.

Who was talking and what is his ideology?

Obama believes that the few should be taxed so that the government can give to the many and in that way buy votes for Democrats.

He is not talking about caring for the needy in the way that Christians think of it.

 

[freeatlast]

...Christ.

STORY

However, I am sure we can find a way to condemn him.

I pray He believes on and knows the One who he spoke about.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I pray He believes on and knows the One who he spoke about.

Amen and amen.

 

[carpro]

...Christ.

STORY

However, I am sure we can find a way to condemn him.

He is what he is, a hypocrite and a liar.

What he said doesn't change that at all.

 

[Christos doulos]

...Christ.

STORY

However, I am sure we can find a way to condemn him.

No my friend. President Obama's message did not center on Christ but works. It was a moralistic message.

President Obama's quotes:

"Obama said Christ was "a manifestation of God's love for us" who became "a leader with a servant's heart who taught us a message as simple as it is powerful:

that we should love God.... (WORKS), and love our neighbor as ourselves......" (WORKS)

"keep in mind the central message of this season (WORKS), and keep Christ's words not only in our thoughts,.....(WORKS) but also in our deeds......." (WORKS)

"In this season of hope, let's help those who need it most (WORKS)--the homeless (WORKS) the hungry,(WORKS) the sick (WORKS)......In this season of plenty, let's reach out to those who struggle to find work (WORKS) or provide for their families......(WORKS)

In this season of generosity, let's give thanks (WORKS) and honor to our troops and our veterans, and their families who've sacrificed so much for us (WORKS). And let's welcome all those who are happily coming home.."(WORKS)

Whew I am exhausted!!!!! That sure is a lot to DO...DO...DO...DO...DO...DO

Sorry President Obama, but works is not Christ message, and I honestly can't live up to all that religion you just burdened me with.

(Matthew 11:30)
"For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." :godisgood:

 

[Salty]

Roger,

You have me confused. There was a thread about Congress not allowing Reps to include "Merry Christmas"

If I remember correctly, you applauded the decision of the House censors.

Therefore, should you not than chastise the President for issuing a Christmas greeting, mentioning God, ect?

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Roger,

You have me confused. There was a thread about Congress not allowing Reps to include "Merry Christmas"

If I remember correctly, you applauded the decision of the House censors.

Therefore, should you not than chastise the President for issuing a Christmas greeting, mentioning God, ect?

Nope, my problem is using the franking privilege to send Christmas cards.

I have not problem with the president using Christmas to refer to Christ's teaching on caring for others.

 

[mandym]

Of course they weren't trying to send Christmas cards.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Actually, I would like to see all Senate franking privileges revoked.

 

[Mexdeaf]

Actually, I would like to see all Senate franking privileges revoked.

Yes- and staff slashed, a pay cut to part-time so they have to work a REAL job as they did in the past, no benefits that are not extended to other Americans (i.e. no more cushy retirement, medical benefits or trading stocks on insider information), no voting privileges on pork that benefits their own district.

I know all that is too much to hope for, but a guy can dream...

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

(Matthew 11:30)
"For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." :godisgood:

A little confused here. In my Bible Jesus specifically tells us to love God (works?) and love our neighbour as ourselves (works?)

Is that too much to be burdened with?

 

[Salty]

Nope, my problem is using the franking privilege to send Christmas cards.

The Congressman were not sending Christmas cards - they would be just sending info to their constituents - and then simply include a "Merry Christmas"

I have not problem with the president using Christmas to refer to Christ's teaching on caring for others.

What the President wrote was solely a (so-called) Christmas message - printed by govt employees and with govt supplies.

Actually, I would like to see all Senate franking privileges revoked.

Disagree - I want my reps to send me info - I understand it may be a bit bias - but it will help me keep informed.
Remember - there are limitations - no mailings a certain number of days before elections - ect....

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The Congressman were not sending Christmas cards - they would be just sending info to their constituents - and then simply include a "Merry Christmas"

Okay, I don't wanting franking privileges to be used to send Christmas letters.

What the President wrote was solely a (so-called) Christmas message - printed by govt employees and with govt supplies.

Okay, as long as you really think the cost is comparable I will concede that you have a point.

Disagree - I want my reps to send me info - I understand it may be a bit bias - but it will help me keep informed.
Remember - there are limitations - no mailings a certain number of days before elections - ect....

The House lost those privileges a long time ago. Would you favour re-instating them.

 

[Salty]

The House lost those privileges a long time ago. Would you favour re-instating them.

(franking )

From what I have read - the House currently has franking.

Here is some info on the privilege


Roger - if I dont have up to date info - please correct me.