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President Re-Takes Oath
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ccrobinson
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Pastor Larry said:
If you notice, Obama hesitated, clearly knowing that Roberts said it wrong. His choice was to say it the right way and embarrass Roberts and sort of muck it up even more, or to join him in getting it wrong. I think he made the right choice and I think I would have done the same thing in the same situation.
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Perhaps, or he may have forgotten what he was supposed to say. I don't know and it doesn't matter.
False. The second time, after Obama hesitated for whatever reason, Roberts got it right and Obama got it wrong. Again, go listen to it.
It's not that big of a deal by any stretch of the imagination.
Don't know what that means.
It wasn't in secret. It is well-publicized and there are pictures of it.
Furthermore, taking an oath on a Bible you don't believe anyway in is irrelevant.
Enoch said:
Enoch,
I am still waiting for your answer to the question I asked you. Can you, will you, provide a answer? Or is it just more fun to play political games? The question can be found by clicking here and I have reprinted it below.
Why do you want Mr. Obama, or anyone for that matter, to do what Scripture says he should not do (Matt 5:34-37, Jms 5:12, Matt 23:16-22)? Please give a direct answer to that question.
If you don't answer that question you have lost 100% of your credibility on this issue.
Personally, I don't use the Bible as a religious talisman. It smacks of idolatry to me.Enoch said:
On the other hand, I don't blame anyone for using a Bible symbolically, unless they are explicitly worshiping it.
My word is good whether or not I lay my hand on a Bible. I assume Obama's commitment is the same whether or not he uses a Bible. I would actually prefer that he would place his hand on a copy of the Constitution instead.
So? You said it was done in secret. It wasn't. You said something that was untrue.
Who cares? What difference does it make?
Enoch said:
==Why can't you just answer the question? It seems to be a very simple question about motive. You complain that he did not use a Bible on the redo. I pointed out that it is not required for him to use a Bible nor is it Biblical. So why do you want Mr. Obama, or anyone for that matter, to do what Scripture says he should not do (Matt 5:34-37, Jms 5:12, Matt 23:16-22)? I don't get it.
ccrobinson
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Pastor Larry said:
Enoch said:
Accusing someone of being untrue is a pretty bold statement. Here is the definition of Secret. I consider the word "secret" suffice.Pastor Larry said:
1 a: kept from knowledge or view : hidden b: marked by the habit of discretion : closemouthed c: working with hidden aims or methods : undercover <a secret agent> d: not acknowledged : unavowed <a secret bride> e: conducted in secret <a secret trial>2: remote from human frequentation or notice : secluded3: revealed only to the initiated : esoteric4: designed to elude observation or detection <a secret panel>5: containing information whose unauthorized disclosure could endanger national security — compare confidential , top secret
— se·cret·ly adverb
synonyms secret , covert , stealthy , furtive , clandestine , surreptitious , underhanded mean done without attracting observation. secret implies concealment on any grounds for any motive <met at a secret location>. covert stresses the fact of not being open or declared <covert intelligence operations>. stealthy suggests taking pains to avoid being seen or heard especially in some misdoing <the stealthy step of a burglar>. furtive implies a sly or cautious stealthiness <lovers exchanging furtive glances>. clandestine implies secrecy usually for an evil, illicit, or unauthorized purpose and often emphasizes the fear of being discovered <a clandestine meeting of conspirators>. surreptitious applies to action or behavior done secretly often with skillful avoidance of detection and in violation of custom, law, or authority <the surreptitious stockpiling of weapons>. underhanded stresses fraud or deception <an underhanded trick>.
Not really. In this case, it was easy. You said something that did not accurately reflect the state of reality, and therefore, your statement was by definition untrue.
Your last six words don't form a coherent sentence, but this was not "kept from knowledge or view." It was plain and open. There is a recording of it, and there are pictures of it. By definition, that isn't "kept from knowledge or view."
Nothing in your definition can accurately be applied to this situation. So, by definition, you said something that was untrue.
But it doesn't matter anyway. The first oath was fine. The second was unnecessary, but it was well-publicized. And even if it was secret, who cares?