President Trump and First Lady Test Positive for COVID-19

[Calminian]

Trump is innocent. His accusers aren't credible. Biden, likely guilty. His accuser is very credible. Clinton guilty. But under the law, all are innocent until proven guilty.

I'm praying for him multiple times a day and I am concerned. Phase 1 of symptoms are mild. Phase 2 has respiratory issues. President Trump is entering phase 3 where the body inflames as it destroys all the dead tissue caused by fighting the infection. I would not for myself be willing to go home until out of the woods of phase 3.

How does coronavirus kill? Clinicians trace a ferocious rampage through the body, from brain to toes

Pray, but don't be afraid. Fear is our biggest enemy right now, much bigger than Covid. As the Prez himself said,

“Don’t Be Afraid of Covid – Don’t Let it Dominate Your Life”

All that said, I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm still reeling from Herman Cain's death. He was getting better also. That said, he never got released from the hospital.

 

[Calminian]

I think the battle lines are clear now.

Biden: Covid needs to dominate every aspect of our lives.

Trump: Move on. Don't let Covid dominate your life.

 

[Reformed1689]

SGO has a good point. You'll notice I have not acted like the President is guilty, merely considered it a reason he could be an enemy of the Faith. My suspicion does not lead to me acting, even in terms of my vote, without more proof.

You stated it as fact....

 

[Steven Yeadon]

You stated it as fact....

For a matter of public record, I only believe President Trump is an enemy of the Faith if one of two were true,

1. He is in fact a raper, as some women claim, or some equivalent criminal and is lying to save his skin.
2. He is a closet scoffer to Jesus Christ, but believes in some Creator God, and only wants to manipulate evangelicals to get our votes through pandering and a divisive culture war.

I do not have enough evidence to prove 1, and 2 is a matter of the heart, so I can't know. I cannot prove either 1 or 2, so I move on with thinking of him as a politician lacking the character I would like but with some policies I like and others I don't. Unless Biden turns against the godless wing of his party, I have no desire to support him. Being in league with those openly against the Cross of Christ is that damning.

Please see the bolded sentences in the quote.

 

[Reformed1689]

Please see the bolded sentences in the quote.

Yeah you should make that more clear. Of course, why even bring it up at all? That's gossip.

 

[Steven Yeadon]

Yeah you should make that more clear. Of course, why even bring it up at all? That's gossip.

I'm sorry, I honestly didn't know it was a problem. I'll try to avoid bullet points for hypotheticals from now on.

 

[Scott Downey]

I'm sorry, I honestly didn't know it was a problem. I'll try to avoid bullet points for hypotheticals from now on.

Hi, Steven, a vote for someone other than Trump is a vote for Biden. If you dont vote then same thing, since it weakens the number of votes for Trump then it must logically strengthen the Biden vote.

It is same idea Christ teaches about Himself,

Luke 11:23 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.

 

[InTheLight]

Hi, Steven, a vote for someone other than Trump is a vote for Biden. If you dont vote then same thing, since it weakens the number of votes for Trump then it must logically strengthen the Biden vote.

Why doesn't a vote for someone else weaken the number of votes for Biden? It's the same principal, just viewed from a different perspective.

It is same idea Christ teaches about Himself,

Luke 11:23 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.

Oh boy. You can't wrest scripture much worse than that!

 

[KenH]

Oh boy. You can't wrest scripture much worse than that!

Comparing a flawed human being who said he has never asked for forgiveness from his sins to Christ is simply beyond the pale for any Christian.

 

[KenH]

a vote for someone other than Trump is a vote for Biden

Balderdash. If I vote, my vote for Jo Jorgensen will be a vote for Jo Jorgensen, not a vote for Biden or Trump.

 

[Calminian]

Comparing a flawed human being who said he has never asked for forgiveness from his sins to Christ is simply beyond the pale for any Christian.

Depends on the context. I think you're overplaying your hand, and your righteous indignation.

Simply saying that a man said something similar to what Jesus said is not the unforgivable sin. In fact it's not even a sin.

 

[Calminian]

Market responding. Up 466 Points! 28,149.

 

[Calminian]

Balderdash. If I vote, my vote for Jo Jorgensen will be a vote for Jo Jorgensen, not a vote for Biden or Trump.

Let's just say the dems are very grateful. Their marketing ploys are paying off, targeting the few Christians willing to fall for it.

 

[KenH]

Let's just say the dems are very grateful.

Why would they be grateful? I would never, ever vote for Donald Trump.

This ridiculous assumption that the Democratic and Republican Parties are the automatic default when voting is a bunch of hooey.

 

[Calminian]

Why would they be grateful? I would never, ever vote for Donald Trump.

That's why. They know you're an ally. They hope you multiply. Enough of you, and Biden wins.

 

[KenH]

They know you're an ally.

Your statement makes zero sense. Your reasoning is quite fallacious.

If Donald Trump was the only person on the ballot and I couldn't write someone else in, then I still wouldn't vote for him.

 

[Scott Downey]

Market responding. Up 466 Points! 28,149.

The market has predicted the winner, when it goes up it means the incumbent wins.
It would also be very unusual for a POTUS candidate to win who promises huge new taxes.

 

[Calminian]

Your statement makes zero sense. Your reasoning is quite fallacious.

If Donald Trump was the only person on the ballot and I couldn't write someone else in, then I still wouldn't vote for him.

Which makes you an ally. Donald Trump is the only person on the ballot that can make a difference. If they've convinced you not to vote for him, even if he's the only choice, they've accomplished their goal. They hope you and Jorgensen multiply. It's really their only hope.

 

[KenH]

Donald Trump is the only person on the ballot that can make a difference.

I disagree.

 

[Calminian]

I disagree.

Again, mission accomplished. Trump appointed ACB along with other good supreme court justices and federal justices nationwide. Jorgensen will never do this. Thus the dems are marketing you like crazy to stand by your "morals" and vote for someone irrelevant. They want you to trumpet this supposed virtue to everyone you know. They're depending on you, and you're coming through for them. You are an ally (whether you know it or not).