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President Trump made 16,241 false or misleading claims in his first three years

FollowTheWay

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I am wondering if you made that last statement on purpose to see if you would be corrected or if.... some other reason.
You did post this on Sat 29 Feb 20. As of today, Mr. Trump only has 326 days (give or take a day) left in his current term. Then of course, he will have another 1,461 days!


FTW, be very careful about calling someone a liar.
I really wonder if you know what the definition of a lie is.
lie

verb (2)
\ ˈlī \
lied; lying\ ˈlī-iŋ \
Definition of lie (Entry 3 of 6)

intransitive verb

1: to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive She was lying when she said she didn't break the vase.He lied about his past experience.
2: to create a false or misleading impression Statistics sometimes lie.The mirror never lies.
 

FollowTheWay

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How about when schumer lied about Trumps travel ban on those coming from China and said it was about being against immigrants and that it was premature. Turns out it was the right thing to do. Never the less I doubt ole FTW cares about that.
Chuck Schumer didn't delete tweet criticizing Trump's China travel ban ... because he never wrote it
PolitiFact - Chuck Schumer didn't delete tweet criticizing Trump's China travel ban ... because he never wrote it

Some conservative websites and Twitter users are spreading a false rumor that Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., deleted a tweet from early February criticizing President Donald Trump for banning some forms of travel to and from China.
The tweet was never deleted, because Schumer never sent it.
Yet some conspiracy minded sites used a screenshot of the alleged tweet to seek to criticize Schumer.

Fact Check - Pants opn Fire.png
 

InTheLight

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This is a fact-checked database. Please provide evidence that any one is in error.

Let's take the first one on the main page at your link.

Claim: “The economy is the best it's ever been in -- we have never had an economy like this in history.”

[What the Washington Post leaves out is the very next sentence that Trump says: "Unemployment is at a 50 year low. Unemployment among blacks is at an all time low". Obviously Trump is using unemployment as his most important factor.]

FACT CHECK:
The president can certainly brag about the state of the economy, but he runs into trouble when he makes a play for the history books. By just about any important measure, the economy today is not doing as well as it did under Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson or Bill Clinton — or Ulysses S. Grant.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_35

I don't subscribe to WaPo so I can't see the criteria for what they claim is the best economy in history. They say, "by just about any important measure" the economy isn't as good today as it was previously. They give examples of Eisenhower, LBJ, and Clinton, but I can't see their argument so I can't directly comment on it. I suspect they are cherry-picking economic data to fit their argument.

However, if you take the three most used metrics for measuring the health of an economy--unemployment, GDP growth, and inflation rate--I know we have never had unemployment as low as it is now coupled with GDP growth rates of 2.4%, 2.9%, and 2.3%, and an inflation rate of around 2% as we have the past three years under Trump. That trifecta of goodness has simply never happened before.

The closest years to what we are experiencing now is 1955, 1966, and 1999. But here it depends on what you think is the most important metric. Is it unemployment? Then Trump wins. Is it GDP growth? Then Reagan wins. Is it low inflation? Then Eisenhower wins. Is it a combination of all three factors? Then Trump wins.

You can see for yourself:
Compare Today's Unemployment with the Past
 

Salty

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lie

verb (2)
\ ˈlī \
lied; lying\ ˈlī-iŋ \
Definition of lie (Entry 3 of 6)

intransitive verb

1: to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive She was lying when she said she didn't break the vase.He lied about his past experience.
2: to create a false or misleading impression Statistics sometimes lie.The mirror never lies.

1) I did not ask for the dictionary defintiion - I asked what YOUR defention was.
But as the dictionary say "intent to deceive" so of those 16k+ times you mentioned - how many were purposely meant to decieve - or simply he repeated info given to him....

2) so were you [wrong] when you were wrong about the 40 days of the Trump term of office?
 
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church mouse guy

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Truth: Democrat newspapers like the WP & NYT do not make good wrappers for garbage and serve no other useful purpose at all.

America has been betrayed by the rich and by the educated. The greatest country in the history of the world has classes who have gotten rich and powerful but opposed to the constitution and the bill of rights and the declaration of independence.
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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Chuck Schumer didn't delete tweet criticizing Trump's China travel ban ... because he never wrote it
PolitiFact - Chuck Schumer didn't delete tweet criticizing Trump's China travel ban ... because he never wrote it

Some conservative websites and Twitter users are spreading a false rumor that Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., deleted a tweet from early February criticizing President Donald Trump for banning some forms of travel to and from China.
The tweet was never deleted, because Schumer never sent it.
Yet some conspiracy minded sites used a screenshot of the alleged tweet to seek to criticize Schumer.
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This supposed fact-check completley ignores all of Schumer’s politicizing of the situation, his ignorantly, falaciously, and viciously attacking Trump for his quick handling of coronavirus issues. That in itself earns the fact-checkers several Pinnochios, and your response the label deceptive.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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1) I did not ask for the dictionary defintiion - I asked what YOUR defention was.
But as the dictionary say "intent to deceive" so of those 16k+ times you mentioned - how many were purposely meant to decieve - or simply he repeated info given to him....

2) so were you lying when you were wrong about the 40 days of the Trump term of office?
FTW was quoting the article, which was based on the inauguration date and anniversaries, so it wasn't really off on that one point. The rest of it was off quite a bit, not to mention all the evil deceptions taking shape and place under Obama before Trump took office.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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You do realize that hit piece is precisely the sort of thing Trump is referring to. The mendacious media is bound and determined to paint him as incompetent and a liar, all the while falling all over themselves to make heroes and gods of their worthless favorites.

Go listen to the actual Trump rally. Trump is all too right about both the Dems and their lackey MSM. Oh, and don’t worry. Fox just posts the rally, no commentary. So you can evaluate it without outside influence, other than your precious MSM, who can tell you what to think.

 

FollowTheWay

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Do you deny
You do realize that hit piece is precisely the sort of thing Trump is referring to. The mendacious media is bound and determined to paint him as incompetent and a liar, all the while falling all over themselves to make heroes and gods of their worthless favorites.

Go listen to the actual Trump rally. Trump is all too right about both the Dems and their lackey MSM. Oh, and don’t worry. Fox just posts the rally, no commentary. So you can evaluate it without outside influence, other than your precious MSM, who can tell you what to think.

Trump keeps minimizing the number of Coronaviras cases. He kept saying 15 but in fact there were 64.

You can hear him say "This is their new hoax," He's denying that the Coronavirus is a problem just like he denied so many other things that you can see on video.
Trump claims "we went early." The fact is he sat on knowledge about cases in Washington state for 6 weeks without doing anything.
What about the WHO raising the Coronavirus risk to their highest category, Very High?

Trump claims we have the 15 number down to a much lower number. Is this correct? Not at all. Then he says most of them are in very good shape.

Does this give you confidence in his grasp of the problem? Why?

His Chief of Staff talks about "extraordinary steps that were taken 4 or 5 weeks ago. What were those "extraordinary steps?"

Then Trump Jr. claims that the Democrats hope a pandemic comes here and kills millions of people is not just a lit. It's a ridiculous and dastardly lie. What proof does he have to support that statement? I want to see it on video just as you can see on video

Trump is making this situation worse. Then Sec. of Health and human Services talks about Trump's "historically aggressive containment efforts!" Wow! That's a whopper!
 

FollowTheWay

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This simply talks a
This supposed fact-check completley ignores all of Schumer’s politicizing of the situation, his ignorantly, falaciously, and viciously attacking Trump for his quick handling of coronavirus issues. That in itself earns the fact-checkers several Pinnochios, and your response the label deceptive.
bout the tweet that was supposedly put out by Schumer. That was a LIE.
 
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