Priesthood of all believers - vs the board

[BobRyan]

I am always curious to see how the Baptist "put in practice" their belief in the priesthood of all believers.

In the Baptist-only section of the board -- the priesthood of all believers only allows Baptists to post.

In the Other Denominations section of the board - the priesthood of all believers bans certain Christian denominations.

What exactly does the doctrine mean if when put in practice -- it looks just as sectarian as any of the groups that do not accept that Bible doctrine?

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Tom Bryant]

Here's some more (while we're posting silliness)... only women in the women's thread or only men in the men's thread...

The priesthood of all believers has nothing to do with who can post where on the BB. It deals with our relationship with God and the freedom within limits to determine for ourselves what Scriptures mean. It certainly doesn't mean that every opinion is right or even Biblical.

 

[rdwhite]

...What exactly does the doctrine mean if when put in practice -- it looks just as sectarian as any of the groups that do not accept that Bible doctrine?

I would think it means that modern day pharisees are not practicing the doctrine as it was intended. Priesthood of the believer is traditionally a baptist held belief, but it certain cannot be limited to baptists, there are other groups who also hold the belief to be true. But of course, many of the protestants maintain a catholic class distinction in the church, where the Priests/Clergy/Ministers are esteemed to hold higher position than that of the common man.

 

[Salty]

Only a priest can go before God. As a royal priesthood, I enjoy the privilege of directly going to the Lord!

No Biblical requirement for me to confess my sins to a priest as Israel had to do and some current religions require.

Salty

ps Since the mens private forum is slow, I demand that I be allowed to post in the womens forum. And while I am at it, why am I not welcomed in the moderators forum?? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[DHK]

Bob, I will allow this thread to continue. However your in your OP it is contradictory, illogical and makes no sense. As one poster put it what is the purpose of having a ladies forum if men can't post there, or a men's forum if women can't post there? Does that make sense to you? Neither does your OP.
Pentecostals, Presbyterians, Methodists, and all "evangelicals" or all who are saved are priests before God. Is that a difficult concept to grasp. It is a Baptist distinctive that we believe--the priesthood of the believer. Unlike the Catholics who must go through a priest, we always can go straight to God. That is the priesthood of the believer--having no other mediator but Christ himself.

This is a Baptist Board. Why have a Baptist Board if it isn't Baptist? That is the question your asking? If you don't want a Baptist Board you don't have to come here. You can go to an SDA board. I am not trying to sound harsh, but show the inconsistency and illogical position of your OP. The board has been gracious enough to create a section of the board for non-Baptists, but they didn't have to do that. It is a Baptist Board, and could have made it exclusively Baptist. Are you glad they didn't.

Every believer is a priest before God.
Not every believer is a Baptist.
It is that simple.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Every believer is a priest before God.
Not every believer is a Baptist.
It is that simple

Amen......

 

[BobRyan]

I would think it means that modern day pharisees are not practicing the doctrine as it was intended. Priesthood of the believer is traditionally a baptist held belief, but it certain cannot be limited to baptists, there are other groups who also hold the belief to be true. .

Agreed. Adventists also hold to that view.

 

[BobRyan]

Bob, I will allow this thread to continue. However your in your OP it is contradictory, illogical and makes no sense. As one poster put it what is the purpose of having a ladies forum if men can't post there, or a men's forum if women can't post there?

If the doctrine was "there are no ladies and no men" -- then you would be right. It would make no sense to have a "ladies only forum".

Pentecostals, Presbyterians, Methodists, and all "evangelicals" or all who are saved are priests before God. Is that a difficult concept to grasp.

Err. umm.. "no". My problem is not with the doctrine.

It is a Baptist distinctive that we believe--the priesthood of the believer. Unlike the Catholics who must go through a priest, we always can go straight to God. That is the priesthood of the believer--having no other mediator but Christ himself.

1. It is not unique or distinctive for Baptists.
2. It goes BEYOND the simple statement "you can go directly to God and pray" -- it ALSO goes to the point of "faith and belief" and the idea that no Pope or Priest can tell you what to believe. That "each one must stand before the judgment seat of Christ" and that no papal authority can determine your doctrine for you.

This is a Baptist Board. Why have a Baptist Board if it isn't Baptist? That is the question your asking? If you don't want a Baptist Board you don't have to come here. You can go to an SDA board.

Hmm - comparing an SDA board to a Baptist board? -- OK it is a deal.

There is a very large SDA board called ClubAdventist that believes in the priesthood of all believers - and does not slice off the board so that Baptists can not post or so that Catholics can not post.

I am not trying to sound harsh, but show the inconsistency and illogical position of your OP. The board has been gracious enough to create a section of the board for non-Baptists, but they didn't have to do that.

My question is not about the "right" of the board owner to make up any rule he likes. He could just as easily have said "this board can only be used by members of my family, or my local congregation". I would still not complain about that, nor am I complaining about the current policy.

My question is simply about the sectarian nature of the decision as compared to the teaching about the "priesthood of all believers". It is philosophy and consistency being examined -- not the right of a board to do whatever it chooses.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[DHK]

My question is simply about the sectarian nature of the decision as compared to the teaching about the "priesthood of all believers". It is philosophy and consistency being examined -- not the right of a board to do whatever it chooses.

in Christ,

Bob

The two are mutually exclusive. The rights of one individual does not interfere with the rights of another's soul liberty. If you have soul liberty, which you do, don't expect to come into my house and force it down my throat. That is not what it is; that is the opposite of soul liberty. My house is a private dwelling and I own it. I paid for it. I make the rules. And your soul liberty has nothing to do with you coming into my house uninvited to spread your religion. That is trespassing. It is against the law.

The same is true here. This is a private board. If you go into a part of the house (board) where the owner has not permitted you to go you are trespassing. You are breaking the law--the laws that you agreed to when you signed up. Continued violation of such laws will end up in being banned. If you break into my house I will call the police. If you break into the wrong forums here, I will call the administration or the proper authorities. Soul liberty has nothing to do with keeping the law. It is a very simple concept to understand. There is no such thing as absolute freedom and soul liberty does not give that to anyone.

 

[TCGreek]

BobRyan,

If I, a Southern Baptist, were to visit your church on Saturday, Would you call on me to open in prayer?

 

[BobRyan]

BobRyan,

If I, a Southern Baptist, were to visit your church on Saturday, Would you call on me to open in prayer?

It is possible. If I thought you were Bible teacher, or Pastor of a Southern Baptist church and I knew you personnally - I might just do that.

I have attended Southern Baptist churches where they asked me to teach Sunday school and the sunday evening training class - for specific topics.

I would have no problem returning the favor.

But my question on this thread is not about letting non-Baptists take the pulpit in a baptist church -- nor am I asking about non-Baptists teaching Sunday school class at a Baptist church.

The question is more equivalent to non-Baptists "attending a Sunday School class" where the class format was open discussion on the lesson for the week. (This is something that happens all the time in the real world).

Only in the context of the board and the topic "Priesthood of all believers".

I have never found a Southern Baptist church that insisted that all non-Baptist regular attendees be confined to a "non-baptist Sunday School Class". (Though - I still would not complain if they did that)

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

The two are mutually exclusive. The rights of one individual does not interfere with the rights of another's soul liberty. If you have soul liberty, which you do, don't expect to come into my house and force it down my throat.

Err um... there is no "coming to the other Denominations section" and forcing any doctrine at all down anyone's throat - as it turns out.

That is not the topic.

That is not what it is; that is the opposite of soul liberty.

Which is why we don't do it here in the "Other Denominations" section of the board - either.

Not the topic.

My house is a private dwelling and I own it. I paid for it. I make the rules. And your soul liberty has nothing to do with you coming into my house uninvited to spread your religion. That is trespassing. It is against the law.

That is also not the topic. The question is not "why can't non-Baptist go where they are not invited". Hopefully we all easily get the concept of not going wherever you are not invited.

The question is "Ideally who would be invited-to/excluded-from a discussioin on Bible doctrine GIVEN full acceptance of the Bible doctrine on the the Priesthood of all believers"

in Christ,

Bob

 

[DHK]

Bob your question has been answered many times over. You just need to accept it.

 

[I Am Blessed 24]

Bob: The Baptist Only section was created for Baptists to discuss Baptist issues with people of like beliefs. We don't have to debate with other denominations there. We Baptists have enough to disagree on without having to disagree with other religions.

As far as the gender oriented forums...yes, we do need separate forums because some topics are inappropriate to discuss in mixed company.

There will be no male and female in Heaven, but we are not in Heaven yet...soon I hope.

In this day and age, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference in some males and females, but believe me, we are different. Only when we go to the throne of Grace are we all equal.