Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice : same ideologies-different groups

[JonC]

And you are wrong. The ideology is totally different.

No. The circumstances are different. The ideologies are identical.

 

[JonC]

They do not share the same ideology. That is a complete mid-characterization of their ideology.

They don’t “value their lives above the lives of others”. That is nonsense.

They don’t trust what the government is saying because 1. Those with natural immunity are rarely included in the studies. 2. The government officials have repeatedly lied about this virus, the effectiveness of masks, the need for children to be vaccinated/masked and so on. 3. They view this response as overreach that lays the foundation to a “health emergency” as pretext to attack other constitutional rights.

What this link is saying is nothing more than anti-Christian, left wing propaganda designed to intimidate and shame Christians into accepting the official government position by claiming their ideology is the same as the baby murder crowd.

I doubt any minds will change due to this.

Ive said my peace. I’ll leave you to it.

peace to you

You said "When others “opinions” slander Christian men and women, I’ll call them out."

Apparently that is a false claim.

@SGO slandered millions of our brethern by saying they were like nazis. You were silent.

Looks like you should have said 'I call out people only when they oppose my side of an issue". That would have been more true of a claim.

 

[Salty]

You are mistaking. Not all do belueve they are saving the mothers life, but most do. They believe if abortion is made illegal tge mother will find riskier means of obtaining an abortion.

Thats what the libs want people to believe -

 

[777]

think you're desperately looking for symmetry again - okay, the pro-choice and the anti-vaxers both claim it's their body and they both don't want to outlaw covid shots and abortion, they just want the option to abort or to refuse/accept the shot.

Falls apart when the mandate part is introduced - there the pro-vax crowd comes off to me a lot like the "one child" policy of Red China - you will abort/be vaccinated with no exceptions if it's deemed to help society. Hate utilitarianism.

 

[JonC]

Thats what the libs want people to believe -

No. Nancy Pelosi is a liberal (she's on your side this time ).

 

[SGO]

Sorry....I missed you calling out @SGO for His opinion Christians who are pro-vaccination are like Nazis.

I'll look again.

That said, I never said that pro-choice anti-vovvine-vaxers support abortion. I said they share the same ideology. And I believe they do.

You distort what I was saying.

The German government made the propaganda against the Jews.

Our government and much of the media is against those that do not get the vax.

Some Christians are fine with that and join in with the condemnation.

My OPINION was that the government is against those who do not comply and will go to great lengths to enforce their policies.

Are you saying our government will never do such a heinous thing?

My post was not directed to Christians: only to what may happen in the future.

 

[Revmitchell]

Same old arguments and ideologies but different groups.

One cares about the other's life, health, and safety while the other has no problem endangering the lives of others should they feel their rights infringed upon.

Alexander: Vaccines are the New Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice – The Daily Utah Chronicle

Got to be one of the dumbest posts ever

 

[Reynolds]

You are mistaking. Not all do belueve they are saving the mothers life, but most do. They believe if abortion is made illegal tge mother will find riskier means of obtaining an abortion.

And that's just stupid. Murder is murder.

 

[JonC]

You distort what I was saying.

The German government made the propaganda against the Jews.

Our government and much of the media is against those that do not get the vax.

Some Christians are fine with that and join in with the condemnation.

My OPINION was that the government is against those who do not comply and will go to great lengths to enforce their policies.

Are you saying our government will never do such a heinous thing?

My post was not directed to Christians: only to what may happen in the future.

No. You wrote "the unvaxed are lice: has a president" and followed it by Nazi propaganda.

We're you just expressing an opinion that the government would use propaganda to try and convince people to be vaccinated you would not have gone all nazi on us. I actually would have agreed with your opinion.

But you chose the path of Nazi propaganda (which was, to be clear, more telling about you than those who are grateful for the lives spared by the vaccine).

 

[Reynolds]

No. It is the same. For example a young man with an appendicitis had his appendix rupture. Why? Was he late getting to a hospital? No. He was there but was waiting because the hospital was too full of covid patients where most could have avoided serious illness by being vaccinated. As more people die because of the anti-covid-vaccination agenda you will probably see more social outcry against this pro-choice group.

The same stuff happened before Covid. When I worked at Sheriff's Office I was in E.R. about every night. That was long before Covid and they often had all operating rooms full.

 

[JonC]

Got to be one of the dumbest posts ever

Yes it is true. You share the pro-choice ideology. You just choose your rights over your body over different human beings.

 

[JonC]

The same stuff happened before Covid. When I worked at Sheriff's Office I was in E.R. about every night. That was long before Covid and they often had all operating rooms full.

I understand busy hospitals. But the issue us we have surgeries canceled and people who cannot get help because of a virus which could easily be mitigated.

 

[Reynolds]

MU?

The new variant. It's here.

 

[Reynolds]

Yes it is true. You share the pro-choice ideology. You just choose your rights over your body over different human beings.

He is actually choosing to protect his life and he can't help that others don't see the trainwreck at the end of the vaccine tunnel. You jumped on the train. Wish you would quit trying to drag us with you.
Tell me why I need vaccinated considering I am for at least 6 months more immune to Delta than you and you don't even want to think about MU.

 

[Reynolds]

I understand busy hospitals. But the issue us we have surgeries canceled and people who cannot get help because of a virus which could easily be mitigated.

Surgeries getting cancelled before Covid.

 

[JonC]

The new variant. It's here.

Ah...yes...thanks to the unvaccinated in Columbia.

Thus far studies indicate the vaccines are effective but to a less degree (lesser than with the Delta varient).

 

[JonC]

Surgeries getting cancelled before Covid.

They were not to the degree they are here. You should move to a better area when the pandemic loosens its hold on hospitals.

 

[JonC]

He is actually choosing to protect his life and he can't help that others don't see the trainwreck at the end of the vaccine tunnel. You jumped on the train. Wish you would quit trying to drag us with you.
Tell me why I need vaccinated considering I am for at least 6 months more immune to Delta than you and you don't even want to think about MU.

You mean he is afraid of what might happen with the vaccines....ascared of the unknown.

I'd say that fits @Revmitchell to a T.

 

[Reynolds]

Ah...yes...thanks to the unvaccinated in Columbia.

Thus far studies indicate the vaccines are effective but to a less degree (lesser than with the Delta varient).

I saw some today that show the vaccines cause increase in MU transmission.
Just say less effective.
You see a disturbing pattern? Failed vaccine?

 

[Reynolds]

They were not to the degree they are here. You should move to a better area when the pandemic loosens its hold on hospitals.

Doctors here send people to MCG and Athens.