Problems at Abortion Center

[Reynolds]

and on the other hand - what would be wrong with it?

What would be wrong with a church officially sanctioning the action would be the undue liability the church would assume.

 

[blessedwife318]

So you knowingly broke the law, which is in violation of God's word and now you want to say you were being persecuted.
I linked you to the laws in Colorado about how far away you had to be. I know you saw them as they were quoted by several people. You are harming your testimony by willingly doing wrong.

In Colorado you cannot come with in 100 feet of the door nor 8 feet of anyone going in or out. Link

Would someone please quote this as I'm on ignore.

 

[Salty]

So you knowingly broke the law, which is in violation of God's word and now you want to say you were being persecuted.
I linked you to the laws in Colorado about how far away you had to be. I know you saw them as they were quoted by several people. You are harming your testimony by willingly doing wrong.

In Colorado you cannot come with in 100 feet of the door nor 8 feet of anyone going in or out. Link

Would someone please quote this as I'm on ignore.

My pleasure BW

 

[blessedwife318]

Thank you Salty

 

[evangelist6589]

Are you saying that the church should sanction each act of evangelism we do? We were commissioned by Christ Himself to go into the world and preach The Gospel. Anti abortion ministry is very important. We as Christians should fight the murder of the unborn child. Why would a Church officially sanction the anti abortion ministry of an individual or group? It simply unnecessarily opens up the church to civil liability.

Trying to reason with Mitchell will get you nowhere, but I do appreciate your comments.

 

[evangelist6589]

My pleasure BW

I was well beyond 100 feet of the door and did not come within 8 feet of anyone.

 

[evangelist6589]

What would be wrong with a church officially sanctioning the action would be the undue liability the church would assume.

Hi Reynolds,

Do you have other ideas on how I can best use my abortion gospel tracts? At present my only option is to mail them out, but I am praying for an opportunity to use them with the right people, thanks.

 

[Don]

I was well beyond 100 feet of the door and did not come within 8 feet of anyone.

Not exactly true. You were in the parking lot, which is within 100 feet.

Question: when you asked the person behind the counter, and he told you you could be in the parking lot, did he know you were there to protest abortion? Or did you just ask if you could put out some materials, without telling him what type of materials?

 

[evangelist6589]

Not exactly true. You were in the parking lot, which is within 100 feet.

Question: when you asked the person behind the counter, and he told you you could be in the parking lot, did he know you were there to protest abortion? Or did you just ask if you could put out some materials, without telling him what type of materials?

I said I was there as an evangelist and not a protestor.

 

[evangelist6589]

Not exactly true. You were in the parking lot, which is within 100 feet.

Question: when you asked the person behind the counter, and he told you you could be in the parking lot, did he know you were there to protest abortion? Or did you just ask if you could put out some materials, without telling him what type of materials?

But I was 100 feet from the door

 

[Rolfe]

I said I was there as an evangelist and not a protestor.

They probably see no difference between the two.

 

[Don]

But I was 100 feet from the door

Please. Be honest with yourself, if not with us. You were asked to move outside the gate; that alone indicates you were within 100 feet.

If that's not enough, then consider: average lane width on a street is 9-12 feet. Giving benefit of the doubt and going with the maximum of 12 feet, a two-lane road is a minimum of 24 feet. Let's give an even greater benefit of the doubt and say four lanes with a turn lane in between; that's 60 feet. 10 feet for sidewalk; and we'll say the closest car is about 70 feet. Do you really expect us to believe that the parking lot was 5 car lanes and a sidewalk, plus 30 more feet, away from the door?

And what you told the man behind the counter--did you tell him you were there to evangelize those who were thinking about getting abortions? Because somehow, you did NOT give them the impression you were there AGAINST abortion.

My apologies for coming down hard on you. But all I see from your post is deception; and I can find no justification for deceiving people in order to preach the Word.

 

[annsni]

Two words: Private property.

 

[evangelist6589]

Please. Be honest with yourself, if not with us. You were asked to move outside the gate; that alone indicates you were within 100 feet.

If that's not enough, then consider: average lane width on a street is 9-12 feet. Giving benefit of the doubt and going with the maximum of 12 feet, a two-lane road is a minimum of 24 feet. Let's give an even greater benefit of the doubt and say four lanes with a turn lane in between; that's 60 feet. 10 feet for sidewalk; and we'll say the closest car is about 70 feet. Do you really expect us to believe that the parking lot was 5 car lanes and a sidewalk, plus 30 more feet, away from the door?

And what you told the man behind the counter--did you tell him you were there to evangelize those who were thinking about getting abortions? Because somehow, you did NOT give them the impression you were there AGAINST abortion.

My apologies for coming down hard on you. But all I see from your post is deception; and I can find no justification for deceiving people in order to preach the Word.

I deceived no one. I was not protesting abortion as the tracts I had hit on abortion as well with a gospel presentation. Pro life advocates would not do such a thing as they are protestors not evangelists. I was there to do evangelism as well as preach against abortion so I was not a protestor but an evangelist. I said to the cop I would not join ranks with CATHOLICS whom protest there daily he told me. He said they hold up signs and pass out pro life fliers. I am an evangelist first.

To be technical it was a big parking lot so I bet it was 100 feet but maybe I was wrong in my measurements. Regardless an honest mistake so I need to find another way to evangelize and pass out these tracts.

 

[evangelist6589]

Also I told the clerk clearly I am an evangelist whom is against abortion but I also said I am no pro life protestor

 

[Rolfe]

Two words: Private property.

Does not matter to some people. Like littering others' autos with tracts left on windshields.

 

[Don]

I deceived no one. I was not protesting abortion as the tracts I had hit on abortion as well with a gospel presentation. Pro life advocates would not do such a thing as they are protestors not evangelists. I was there to do evangelism as well as preach against abortion so I was not a protestor but an evangelist. I said to the cop I would not join ranks with CATHOLICS whom protest there daily he told me. He said they hold up signs and pass out pro life fliers. I am an evangelist first.

Were you telling anyone abortion was wrong? If so, you were protesting abortion. You're attempting to make a distinction that doesn't exist.

To be technical it was a big parking lot so I bet it was 100 feet but maybe I was wrong in my measurements. Regardless an honest mistake so I need to find another way to evangelize and pass out these tracts.

If you were at the far end of the parking lot, and only placing tracts on the cars farthest from the building, then maybe. Otherwise, the parking lot would have to be across the street or down the block--which most abortion clinics won't do because of the "harassment" from protestors that their clients would have to walk through.

Honest mistake? Not hardly. Someone here did your homework for you in looking up the Colorado laws; but you apparently either willfully ignored their work on your behalf, or you willfully ignored the laws.

Again, at least be honest with yourself.

 

[evangelist6589]

Were you telling anyone abortion was wrong? If so, you were protesting abortion. You're attempting to make a distinction that doesn't exist.


If you were at the far end of the parking lot, and only placing tracts on the cars farthest from the building, then maybe. Otherwise, the parking lot would have to be across the street or down the block--which most abortion clinics won't do because of the "harassment" from protestors that their clients would have to walk through.

Honest mistake? Not hardly. Someone here did your homework for you in looking up the Colorado laws; but you apparently either willfully ignored their work on your behalf, or you willfully ignored the laws.

Again, at least be honest with yourself.

I have that poster on ignore and avoid all her posts.

 

[Tom Bryant]

Like I wrote earlier, I do hope that the tracts do some good to stop an abortion. But I really question the wisdom of leaving tracts on a wind shield of a car. Several months ago, a person came through our church parking lot and put flyers for a restaurant with the promo of "Bring in your church bulletin and we'll take 10% off your bill".

Some people did go to the restaurant (none liked the food), but most people balled them up, threw them away. In contacting a guest who had been at the service, the guest asked if we had put them there. He wasn't happy that anyone used the windshield for advertising.

I think it's counter productive to starting any kind of conversation that would help stop an abortion.

 

[blessedwife318]

I have that poster on ignore and avoid all her posts.

Doesn't matter as I was quoted several times in the other thread. So you knew what the law was, as you have made clear by saying you knew you were a hundred feet away. No one is going to feel sorry for you when you willingly broke the law. 1 Pet 2:13-20 comes to mind.