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Progressives demand Biden create 'Reality Czar', To Preside Over Centralized Ministry of Truth

Gold Dragon

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That statement demonstrates just how little people not living in America know about America, even those supposedly highly educated.

The disinformation spread by the Dem MSM is difficult even for many Americans to resist precisely because they are not very educated, or are so indoctrinated by their education that they avoid those sources that would open their eyes to the truth.

I showed a transcript of his statements and how he approached the questions that day. It also has a link to the transcript of his previous press statement where instead of denouncing white supremacists he denounced “violence on many sides” which lead to the infamous press statements in question. You can see the tactics for yourself that he used to simultaneously support and denounce white supremacists under the guise of fact finding to support folks there who were not white supremacists.

White supremacists understood what he was doing and loved him even more. They have plenty of experience not being able to voice their true feelings in public. The point of denouncing a hate group that follows you is to get them to stop doing what they are doing. Instead he encourages and emboldens them with his statements and misdirects to his favourite boogeyman and has trained his followers to do the same. That is not an accident but an intentional pattern, just like his Proud Boys statement.

 

Gold Dragon

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Speaking of boogeymen, here is an excerpt of Orwell’s 1984 on the two minutes hate, ironically from a conservative think tank website that is unable to apply it to its most direct modern parallel in the United States.

Here’s the original ‘Two Minutes Hate’
The Hate had started.

As usual, the face of Emmanuel Goldstein, the Enemy of the People, had flashed on to the screen. There were hisses here and there among the audience. The little sandy-haired woman gave a squeak of mingled fear and disgust. Goldstein was the renegade and backslider who once, long ago (how long ago, nobody quite remembered), had been one of the leading figures of the Party, almost on a level with Big Brother himself, and then had engaged in counter-revolutionary activities, had been condemned to death, and had mysteriously escaped and disappeared. The programmes of the Two Minutes Hate varied from day to day, but there was none in which Goldstein was not the principal figure…

Winston’s diaphragm was constricted. He could never see the face of Goldstein without a painful mixture of emotions. It was a lean Jewish face, with a great fuzzy aureole of white hair and a small goatee beard — a clever face, and yet somehow inherently despicable, with a kind of senile silliness in the long thin nose, near the end of which a pair of spectacles was perched. It resembled the face of a sheep, and the voice, too, had a sheep-like quality. Goldstein was delivering his usual venomous attack upon the doctrines of the Party — an attack so exaggerated and perverse that a child should have been able to see through it, and yet just plausible enough to fill one with an alarmed feeling that other people, less level-headed than oneself, might be taken in by it. He was abusing Big Brother, he was denouncing the dictatorship of the Party, he was demanding the immediate conclusion of peace with Eurasia, he was advocating freedom of speech, freedom of the Press, freedom of assembly, freedom of thought, he was crying hysterically that the revolution had been betrayed — and all this in rapid polysyllabic speech which was a sort of parody of the habitual style of the orators of the Party, and even contained Newspeak words: more Newspeak words, indeed, than any Party member would normally use in real life…

Before the Hate had proceeded for thirty seconds, uncontrollable exclamations of rage were breaking out from half the people in the room. The self-satisfied sheep-like face on the screen, and the terrifying power of the Eurasian army behind it, were too much to be borne: besides, the sight or even the thought of Goldstein produced fear and anger automatically. … But what was strange was that although Goldstein was hated and despised by everybody, although every day and a thousand times a day, on platforms, on the telescreen, in newspapers, in books, his theories were refuted, smashed, ridiculed, held up to the general gaze for the pitiful rubbish that they were — in spite of all this, his influence never seemed to grow less.

...

The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretense was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one’s will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp. Thus, at one moment Winston’s hatred was not turned against Goldstein at all, but, on the contrary, against Big Brother, the Party, and the Thought Police; and at such moments his heart went out to the lonely, derided heretic on the screen, sole guardian of truth and sanity in a world of lies. And yet the very next instant he was at one with the people about him, and all that was said of Goldstein seemed to him to be true. At those moments his secret loathing of Big Brother changed into adoration, and Big Brother seemed to tower up, an invincible, fearless protector, standing like a rock…
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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I showed a transcript of his statements and how he approached the questions that day. It also has a link to the transcript of his previous press statement where instead of denouncing white supremacists he denounced “violence on many sides” which lead to the infamous press statements in question. You can see the tactics for yourself that he used to simultaneously support and denounce white supremacists under the guise of fact finding to support folks there who were not white supremacists.

White supremacists understood what he was doing and loved him even more. They have plenty of experience not being able to voice their true feelings in public. The point of denouncing a hate group that follows you is to get them to stop doing what they are doing. Instead he encourages and emboldens them with his statements and misdirects to his favourite boogeyman and has trained his followers to do the same. That is not an accident but an intentional pattern, just like his Proud Boys statement.
Your assessment concerning Trump is completey wrong. Your approach basically buys into the twisted, one-sided tactics of the Progressive Left Dem MSM and politicians who foment and spread lies, hate, and violence. They never denounce the domestic terrorist groups Antifa or BLM but rather approve, encourage, and enable them to clash with both peaceful protesters and police. And both of those extremist groups are quite large and violently active.

Also, their rhetoric isn’t just unhinged and incendiary, it is designed to apply broadly. They accuse everyone who disagrees with them politically of being a racist, a white supremacist. They even accuse Candace Owens of the latter. In committee, a congressman had the gall to take her comments out of context trying to paint her as a Hilter-loving fascist. Repeating their lies and rhetoric will get you nowhere with those who are aware of the situation in America.

Trump does not approve white supremacy or racism and does not practice either, and has consistently denounced both. But to expect him to join the Dems in their approval of Antifa and BLM is beyond ridiculous.
 

church mouse guy

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If this event actually helped Biden, he would have run commercials about it incessantly but he did not because everyone knew that Biden was lying. Furthermore, it was Biden who was behind the crime bill that Trump reversed after 25 years. Historically, the Democrats originated segregation, the KKK, Jim Crow, and the poll tax as a voting requirement. And it was Biden who called black children the racist name of “roaches.” Trump revitalized black Republicans and did very well with black conservatives.
 

Gold Dragon

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Your approach basically buys into the twisted, one-sided tactics of the Progressive Left Dem MSM and politicians.

My approach is to read and watch what he says and compare that to what he does. And also to compare what he does and says to other leaders in history and how his followers respond to him by seeing how you guys respond.
 

AustinC

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Has the OP ever shared the NY Times article so we could actually read the article? All I see is a shock jock article from a propaganda site.
 

AustinC

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Speaking of boogeymen, here is an excerpt of Orwell’s 1984 on the two minutes hate, ironically from a conservative think tank website that is unable to apply it to its most direct modern parallel in the United States.

Here’s the original ‘Two Minutes Hate’
Orwell's "1984" is a second rate hack job of Yevgeny Zemyatin's "We." Orwell read it and essentially tried to plaegerize it for US audiences. Pick it up and see how a Russian warned of the Soviet regime.
 

church mouse guy

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Biden led a majority of Catholics to vote for him knowing that Biden had always favored abortion. Margaret Sanger made it clear that abortion was a way to get rid of blacks. Yet both Hillary and Pelosi proudly state that they received the Margaret Sanger award from Planned Parenthood. Democrats are in favor of eugenics, which Bill Gates has said openly.
 

777

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they really are totally helpless and/or lazy, aren't they?

How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

"our", heh, guess the jackboot was talking to himself and other communists.

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and they're STiLL going on and on with it.

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Gold Dragon

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Orwell's "1984" is a second rate hack job of Yevgeny Zemyatin's "We." Orwell read it and essentially tried to plaegerize it for US audiences. Pick it up and see how a Russian warned of the Soviet regime.

Thanks. Will check it out. The genre is a favourite of mine and it would be good to read (or most likely listen to) the original.
 

church mouse guy

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they really are totally helpless and/or lazy, aren't they?

How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

"our", heh, guess the jackboot was talking to himself and other communists.

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and they're STiLL going on and on with it.

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Great post! Thanks for the link to the NYT article as I had not read the entire article before!

Mexican Carlos Slim owns a big hunk of the NYT. Slim is one of the richest men in the world but he is just anti-American. Notice that they don’t try to show evidence of Biden’s truth but just state it as truth and then delve into pop psychology about what is wrong with 75 million Trump voters.

Biden is so weak and so evil that the Dems are still focused on Trump. Meanwhile lack of confidence in a befuddled Biden who destroyed a million jobs by signing a paper has led to a recession on the horizon.
 

Scott Downey

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Has the OP ever shared the NY Times article so we could actually read the article? All I see is a shock jock article from a propaganda site.
Link is in the original posted article, if you read it you will see that.
How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis
The LEFT likes to throw out the word 'baseless' lately

According to other polls, more than 70 percent of Republicans believe Mr. Trump legitimately won the election, and 40 percent of Americans — including plenty of Democrats — believe the baseless theory that Covid-19 was manufactured in a Chinese lab.

Well, it was manufactured in a lab in China, and I had other threads listing that in the forum, and the CDC continues to say it was not. The CDC claim it came from Chinese people eating bats or some animal. The Chinese communists claim it came from a lab in the US run by the military and it is a bioweapon.
 

AustinC

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Link is in the original posted article, if you read it you will see that.
How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis
The LEFT likes to throw out the word 'baseless' lately

According to other polls, more than 70 percent of Republicans believe Mr. Trump legitimately won the election, and 40 percent of Americans — including plenty of Democrats — believe the baseless theory that Covid-19 was manufactured in a Chinese lab.

Well, it was manufactured in a lab in China, and I had other threads listing that in the forum, and the CDC continues to say it was not. The CDC claim it came from Chinese people eating bats or some animal. The Chinese communists claim it came from a lab in the US run by the military and it is a bioweapon.
Thanks for the link. This is what I was looking for. Here's the quotes I found of value.

“It’s really important that we have a holistic understanding of what the spectrum of violent extremism looks like in the United States, and then allocate resources accordingly,” said William Braniff, a counterterrorism expert and professor at the University of Maryland.

Joan Donovan, the research director of Harvard University’s Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy, suggested that the Biden administration could set up a “truth commission,” similar to the 9/11 Commission, to investigate the planning and execution of the Capitol siege on Jan. 6. This effort, she said, would ideally be led by people with deep knowledge of the many “networked factions” that coordinated and carried out the riot, including white supremacist groups and far-right militias.

“There must be accountability for these actions,” Dr. Donovan said. “My fear is that we will get distracted as a society and focus too much on giving voice to the fringe groups that came out in droves for Trump.”
These experts were heartened that the Biden administration had already announced a “comprehensive threat assessment” of domestic extremism after the Capitol riots. But they cautioned that categorizing these extremists as “domestic terrorists” — while understandable, given the damage they’ve caused — could backfire. They noted that counterterrorism efforts had historically been used to justify expanding state power in ways that end up harming religious and ethnic minorities, and that today’s domestic extremism crisis didn’t map neatly onto older, more conventional types of terror threats.

Instead, they suggested using new and narrower labels that could help distinguish between different types of movements, and different levels of influence within those movements. A paranoid retiree who spends all day reading QAnon forums isn’t the same as an armed militia leader, and we should delineate one from the other.

Several experts I spoke with recommended that the Biden administration put together a cross-agency task force to tackle disinformation and domestic extremism, which would be led by something like a “reality czar.”

...Most of the experts agreed that the most effective thing the Biden administration could do to fix our national reality crisis, and possibly even de-radicalize some of those who have been lured into extremist groups and conspiracy theory movements, would be to address the underlying problems that drove them there in the first place.

“A lot of the barriers to re-entry are very pragmatic and boring,” said Mr. Braniff of the University of Maryland. “They’re not necessarily about changing someone’s ideas. They’re about giving them access to different circumstances that allows them to disengage.”
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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My approach is to read and watch what he says and compare that to what he does. And also to compare what he does and says to other leaders in history and how his followers respond to him by seeing how you guys respond.
No. Your approach is to ignore what is really going on, that is, actual context, aka "the big picture," and instead focus solely on certain isolated points regarding Trump, the same ones that the Progressive Left Dems just happen to create, develop, and then twist via their MSM. In the vernacular, you are drinking the Kool-Aid, or serving it.

If your scrutiny were applied to Trump's enemies, which are myriad, with the same focus and intensity but without the inherent bias against Trump, a much different picture would emerge, but such an approach is reserved for those seeking the truth.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Thanks for the link. This is what I was looking for. Here's the quotes I found of value.
“It’s really important that we have a holistic understanding of what the spectrum of violent extremism looks like in the United States, and then allocate resources accordingly,” said William Braniff, a counterterrorism expert and professor at the University of Maryland."​

Their rhetoric is hypocritial in the extreme. These people care nothing about combating violent extremism. They wholeheartedly endorse it through BLM & Antifa. They already "allocate resources accordingly."
 

Scott Downey

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“It’s really important that we have a holistic understanding of what the spectrum of violent extremism looks like in the United States, and then allocate resources accordingly,” said William Braniff, a counterterrorism expert and professor at the University of Maryland."​

Their rhetoric is hypocritial in the extreme. These people care nothing about combating violent extremism. They wholeheartedly endorse it through BLM & Antifa. They already "allocate resources accordingly."
So TRUE, its so blatantly obvious how can anyone miss what's going on. People may just not want to face the truth, so they personally suppress it. It really is that bad what is happening. The end result of this kind of thing is some kind of destruction, war, etc... certainly not peace except at the edge of the sword. We have thousands of years of history that shows that.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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So TRUE, its so blatantly obvious how can anyone miss what's going on. People may just not want to face the truth, so they personally suppress it. It really is that bad what is happening. The end result of this kind of thing is some kind of destruction, war, etc... certainly not peace except at the edge of the sword. We have thousands of years of history that shows that.
Clearly they are masters at manipulating the mindless masses, so that they can do whatever they will against those who oppose their agenda. Their goal is a totalitarian state and will likely be the result, as they can manufacture and exaggerate events to justify any action they wish to take.
 

church mouse guy

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Clearly they are masters at manipulating the mindless masses, so that they can do whatever they will against those who oppose their agenda. Their goal is a totalitarian state and will likely be the result, as they can manufacture and exaggerate events to justify any action they wish to take.

If the Democrat Party can destroy the US Constitution, they will have effectively destroyed Liberty worldwide and the world will slide into darkness.
 
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