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Proof Calvinism is the only true doctrine

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atpollard said:
God has already defined "True Justice" for you. Every person that sins (Fails to "LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH") deserves to experience the wrath of God and die ... and it just so happens that "all have sinned". So "True Justice" is every soul that is punished for its sins.

Anything else is something other than "Justice".

You accuse others of not knowing "what true justice is", but are you sure that you correctly understand what Justice is?
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So are you a man with no sin? . I am because I wear the righteousness of Christ His Righteousness hides all my sin We put on the righteousness of Christ by choosing to believe.
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atpollard said:
God has already defined "True Justice" for you. Every person that sins (Fails to "LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH") deserves to experience the wrath of God and die ... and it just so happens that "all have sinned". So "True Justice" is every soul that is punished for its sins.

Anything else is something other than "Justice".

You accuse others of not knowing "what true justice is", but are you sure that you correctly understand what Justice is?
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So is the case for every Christian. We are not saved because of our righteousness, we are saved because of the righteousness of Jesus Christ We wear the righteousness of Christ. Christ Him self is perfect and this is all God see's is His righteousness
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No one has proven Calvinism is true. No where is there proof of Calvinism. When you try to prove it you show scripture that do not prove it and then present your own interpretation.Calvinism in my opinion is only imaginary.
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MB said:
No one has proven Calvinism is true. No where is there proof of Calvinism. When you try to prove it you show scripture that do not prove it and then present your own interpretation.Calvinism in my opinion is only imaginary.
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Ephesians 2:1-10 ... who saves?
 
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MB said:
So are you a man with no sin? . I am because I wear the righteousness of Christ His Righteousness hides all my sin We put on the righteousness of Christ by choosing to believe.
MB
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non sequitur.

The question was “What is Justice?”
 
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MB said:
So is the case for every Christian. We are not saved because of our righteousness, we are saved because of the righteousness of Jesus Christ We wear the righteousness of Christ. Christ Him self is perfect and this is all God see's is His righteousness
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non sequitur.

The question was “What is Justice?”
 
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atpollard said:
Ephesians 2:1-10 ... who saves?
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Jesus saves This I have never denied How ever He does not save so that men can believe and no one is saved by Grace alone. The woman who washed the feet of Jesus was saved by her own faith. Christ said so;
Luk 7:44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
Luk 7:45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet
.Luk 7:46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
Luk 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
Luk 7:48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
Luk 7:49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?
Luk 7:50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
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InTheLight said:
Sure if you keep on high-jacking the thread. And here I thought it was "Proof that Calvinism is the Only True Doctrine".
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Basic tactic of Calvinist. To change the subject when they have run out of false interpretations.
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Never let man be the mediator for your salvation. (Joel 2:32) (Revelation 22:17) (John 8:12) (John 12:46) (Acts 2:21) (Romans 10:9-13) (John 6:40) (John 3:16)
 
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atpollard said:
The classic "non-TULIP" position is John 3:16 with emphasis on "the world" (everyone) and "whosoever believes" (anyone that chooses). Who had more reason to be "whosoever" than Adam, Eve and Cain? But what actually happened. They chose to hide from God rather than run to God with their sin ... God drew them to Himself to confront the sin. They hid or denied the sin rather than confess the sin ... God had to confront them with the fact of their sin. They did not repent of their sin, but doubled down with more sins (Adam blamed God and Cain lied). They chose to ignore both command and warning directly from the lips of God. They were no more capable of doing the right thing without the irresistable draw of God to compel them than we are.

If THEY didn't choose to be "whosoever" by their own choice, then what makes you think that we will do better than Adam and Eve? Were your parents better at training you up than God?

That is where John 6:44 and Ephesians 2:1-10 fit in and start to make a LOT of sense. We WON'T, so God MUST!

Many are CALLED, but few are CHOSEN! (Mat 22:14)
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You want more proof.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come; and he who is hearing—let him say, Come; and he who is thirsting—let him come; and he who is willing—let him take the water of life freely..
Act 16:30 and having brought them forth, said, 'Sirs, what must I do—that I may be saved?'
Act 16:31 and they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved—thou and thy house;'

Rom 10:9 that if thou mayest confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and mayest believe in thy heart that God did raise him out of the dead, thou shalt be saved,
Rom 10:10 for with the heart doth one believe to righteousness, and with the mouth is confession made to salvation;
Rom 10:11 for the Writing saith, 'Every one who is believing on him shall not be ashamed,'
Rom 10:12 for there is no difference between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord of all is rich to all those calling upon Him,
Rom 10:13 for every one—whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord, he shall be saved.'
Joh 8:12 Again, therefore, Jesus spake to them, saying, 'I am the light of the world; he who is following me shall not walk in the darkness, but he shall have the light of the life.'
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Would you like more proof? The Bible is full of willing believers.
For instance The woman at Simon the pharisee's house Who shed tears on the feet of Jesus and dried them with her hair.
Christ said to her in Like 7:40
Luk 7:50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
May god give you the wisdom to understand the scriptures.
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