Prophecy given in July, 2005

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I agree 100% Marcia.

Even a flase prophet, given enough prophecies, will get one "right."

 

[Ben W]

Yes it does appear that he has prophesied falsely on many occassions. It is a sad thing though that people see what these type of people do and then tar all Pentecostals with the same brush, but that is human nature. I think that if a person does prophecy and it is proven false then he ought to be excommunicated from the fellowship. Not only has he given false information, but by acting as though he is speaking Gods revelation word, he is actually blaspheming, and blasphemy is something that churches need to get some backbone about and deal with.

http://www.geocities.com/Bob_Hunter/clement.html

 

[tamborine lady]

I knew if there was anyone that could get to the bottom of this you guys would!!

Thanks for taking the time.

Peace,

Tam

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Quoting Ben W, "acting as though he is speaking Gods revelation word, he is actually blaspheming, and blasphemy is something that churches need to get some backbone about and deal with."

It is a brave man who tells a pious prophet in the face he's false!

Now what would you brave folk do when such holy men as being the very elect translators of the Scriptures - of 'God's Word' - act as though they are speaking God's revelation-Word, while he is actually blaspheming? Blasphemy is saying 'Thus speaketh the LORD', while the LORD has NEVER, 'thus spoken'!
Or do you think our 'translators' would never "think to change" "one tittle or iota" of the Word of God, what whole words and phrases and every grammatical and syntactical factor so as to obey the so-called principle of 'cultural historic interpretation' of the Scriptures?

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The point of this thread is the false prophet who has a terrible track record.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Originally posted by C4K:
The point of this thread is the false prophet who has a terrible track record.

These learned men have a track record - it follows them with every modern 'Version' / 'Bible' / 'Translation', and "terrible" is the word to describe it!

 

[webdog]

What's the saying, "every now and then a blind prophet -I mean squirrel - finds a nut"?

 

[Ben W]

I think that if someone has prophecied falsely and it is proven so, the elders of the church need to be challenged to disfellowship him, and should he attempt to join another church or go independant, appropriate churches and ministries should be informed. Otherwise we are allowing wolves to ravage the flock.

 

[Pastor_Bob]

Maybe this "prophet" read the National Geographic issue that contained this article:
LINK

 

[hillclimber]

Originally posted by tamborine lady:

I just read this in a email I received, and thought it should be passed on!!

http://www.kimclement.com/words/2005/July222005.htm

Please read it. I am interested in your comments.

Peace,

Tam

It is utter rubbish TL and you should recognize it as such.

 

[INTHESONLITE]

I’M REALLY TRYING HARD NOT TO BE CONTENTIOUS, BUT WHEN I READ C4K’S REMARKS, IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR TRYING TO PURPOSELY BE SPIRITUALLY DENSE.
THE ARK OF THE COVENANT REFERRED TO IN THE PROPHECY IS NOT THE LITERAL ARK OF THE COVENANT, IT IMPLIES THE "PRESENCE OF GOD"( NO, NOT THE LITERAL PRESENCE, LIKE A BURNING BUSH OR SOMETHING), BUT HIS PRESENCE SPIRITUALLY.
SURELY YOU’VE EXPERIENCED HIS PRESENCE WHEN YOUR WORSHIPPING JESUS??? HE DOESN’T MANIFEST LITERALY, BUT YOU CAN FEEL HIS AWESOME PRESENCE. PLEASE TRY TO SEE THE SPIRITUAL MEANING HERE!!!!

IF MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T ACCEPT SPIRITUAL GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TODAY WERE SOME HOW TRANSPORTED BACK TO THE DAYS OF THE EARLY NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH, NO DOUBT THEY WOULD HAVE BE THE SAME NAY-SAYERS WHEN THE DAY OF PENTECOST HAPPENED. ACTING LIKE PHARISEES, THEY WOULD DENY MIRACLES THAT HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE THEIR EYES AND ATTEMPT TO SQUELCH ALL MOVES OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND EVEN DENY CHRIST’S RESURRECTION FROM THE .
PHARISEES TODAY, AS IN JESUS’ DAYS ON EARTH, WERE MARKED BY THEIR REFUSAL TO SEE THE MESSIAH RIGHT BEFORE THEIR EYES DOING THE MIRACULOUS. THEY TRIED TO SQUASH THE MOVE OF GOD BECAUSE IT DIDN’T FIT THEIR RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS AND THREATENED THE STATUS QUO. LEGALISM/RELIGIOUS, MAN MADE TRADITIONS KILLS, BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD GIVES LIFE.
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YES, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF FALSE DOCTRINE, AND AS PAUL SAID TO “TEST THE SPIRITS”, AND I DO SEE SOME WEIRD AND OUT OF BALANCE STUFF GOING ON HERE AND THERE. BUT TO TAKE IT TO THE EXTREME THAT WE QUENCH OR DENY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT MOVING TODAY IS DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO BLASPHEMING THE HOLY SPIRIT.
HOW DARE WE TRY TO PUT GOD IN A BOX AND PUT OUR FINITE LIMITATIONS ON HIM TO SAY HE ONLY MOVES A CERTAIN WAY TODAY AND CAN’T MOVE THROUGH PEOPLE MIRACULOUSLY WITH SIGNS AND WONDERS. YES THERE WILL BE FALSE PROPHETS, HOWEVER I DO BELIEVE THEY WILL BE FALSE PROPHETS THAT WILL STEER PEOPLE AWAY FROM JESUS, NOT TO HIM.

BEWARE OF THE YEAST OF THE MODERN DAY PHARISEES!!!!

 

[atestring]

Originally posted by C4K:
I have a prophecy.

It is going to rain in Ireland this winter.

I Corinthians says to despise not Prophecy!

 

[JGrubbs]

INTHESONLITE typing in ALL CAPS is considered rude on the Internet, and it's really hard to read.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The man quoted has more false prophecies than ones that have "come true." He is a false prophet.

 

[atestring]

Originally posted by C4K:
The man quoted has more false prophecies than ones that have "come true." He is a false prophet.

I beg to differ with you.
Wheither you like him or not or even believe in modern day Prophets or not :
The man has an interesting track record that cannot be ignored.
We are to Judge prophecy ( according to the Word of God) but to despise prophecy is to not obey the Word of God.

 

[atestring]

Originally posted by C4K:
The man quoted has more false prophecies than ones that have "come true." He is a false prophet.

How about proving your point.
1.Tell us about the false prophecies.
2.Number them and tell us about the true prophecies and 3.

we can count and see if you are correct in your accusation!

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Unless his track record is PERFECT he is a false prophet.

National Geographic also "prophecied" this storm. Does that make them a prophet?

Again, when the Ark of the Covenant is revealed in Baton Rouge I will consider the prophecy.

 

[atestring]

Tell me what Kim Clement Prophecied that is false!!!!
I do not know What you mean by the ARk of the Covenant in Baton Rouge but I will research it.

Is it possible for a prophet to use figurative language? I think the old Testament Prophets were known to do that.

 

[atestring]

Originally posted by Marcia:
Here's a prophecy he supposedly made on Oct. 24, 2004, but he posted it on Nov. 3, 2004!

http://www.geocities.com/Bob_Hunter/clement.html

He also prophesied that no Americans would be "inflicted" in Iraq.

Other failed prophecies:
Cure for AIDS by 2002
Large numbers of Muslim conversions by 2002

So he's a false prophet.

In the OT, he would have been stoned.

I will try to find out more information on these prophecies.
Meanwhile are you going to stone him?

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Is it just me, or did this false prophet miss part of the prophecy that included God's judgement on Mississippi and Alabama?

Joseph Botwinick