Hebrews 11:6. 'But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He ism and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.'
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Once again. Do you have any kind of an actual contribution to make? Are you even aware how you look?Careful, Bright, you're 'attacking' him. He's very delicate and sensitive to 'attacks'.
I wouldn't choose a single Bible verse. That is the problem, I think, with how some make up theology. Verses were added long after Scripture was written.If you were to choose a single Bible reference that best unveils the Trinity, what would it be?
Same with Justification. I'm not asking for the whole doctrine to be in one verse, just that there are at least verses stating that we were justified when Christ died.
I do not believe the Atonement was effective pre-Cross.In God's mind when did Christ die?:
8 And bow before it shall all who are dwelling upon the land, whose names have not been written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world; Rev 13
In God's mind are we not already 'glorified'?:
29 For whom he foreknew, he also foreordained to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren:
30 and whom he foreordained, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Ro 8
Was the Atonement effective 'pre-cross'?
Oh Its the Truth
I do not believe the Atonement was effective pre-Cross.
according to a timeline
Careful, Bright, you're 'attacking' him. He's very delicate and sensitive to 'attacks'.
Once again. Do you have any kind of an actual contribution to make? Are you even aware how you look?
Who's Strongest? God Or The Devil?Ky, you're a walking billboard for why everyone should use commentaries.
No I'm right and you are wrong!"It is true, there is a discovery thereof made to justified believers, and therefore it is attainable by the saints, "God shedding abroad his love in their hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto them,"Rom. 5:5; but it is after they are "justified by faith," and have "peace with God," verse 1. But that justification should consist herein is a strange notion. Justification, in the Scripture, is an act of God, pronouncing an ungodly person, upon his believing, to be absolved from the guilt of sin, and interested in the all-sufficient righteousness of Christ: so God "justifieth the ungodly," Rom. 4:5, "by the righteousness of God which is by the faith of Jesus Christ unto them," (Once again, from John Owen)
I accept that you believe it's the truth. And I believe you are sincere. But you are wrong.
Well OK. Let's go with that. So we're even. However if you keep this up then you are the sensitive or even neurotic one. So here's one more chance for you to drop it, since we're all the same, or keep it up, proving that it was you all along.Bottom line Dave, 'you ain't no different' than the rest of us
I don't know. It's hard to argue with that kind of airtight logic. OK. You win.No I'm right and you are wrong!
And I thought I had seen everything!Its leader, John Smyth, became convinced of Believers' Baptism. He initially baptized himself,
With all due respect I have decided that it is time to obey Romans 16:17 and step away.No I'm right and you are wrong!
Well OK. Let's go with that. So we're even. However if you keep this up then you are the sensitive or even neurotic one. So here's one more chance for you to drop it, since we're all the same, or keep it up, proving that it was you all along.
More like a little puzzled. I'm not seeing much debate. I am seeing people on here try to get you to say stupid stuff. They should not encourage you. We had a kid like that in high school and kids used to get him to do stuff. He thought they liked him but really they were making fun of him.You seem to be a little frail to be on a BB debate forum.