Pushing POTUS out?

[MrW]

I knew the story was suppressed. And I agree that it was election fraud. I just didn't know that the validity had been questioned.

Only by democrats, and the media—but I repeat myself.

 

[JonC]

Only by democrats, and the media—but I repeat myself.

That one, I agree.

But I believe that false journalism directed at a candidate or party, and false statements by candidates, during an election is also voter fraud because they try to trick people into giving up their vote.

So obviously, given the integrity of our wonderful politicians, I see enough fraud to go around.

 

[MrW]

That one, I agree.

But I believe that false journalism directed at a candidate or party, and false statements by candidates, during an election is also voter fraud because they try to trick people into giving up their vote.

So obviously, given the integrity of our wonderful politicians, I see enough fraud to go around.

Absolutely it is election interference and fraud, and unjustifiable.

I think all politicians spin some of the facts and most of them flat-out lie, and some would rather lie to their hurt than to tell the truth to their benefit.

 

[canadyjd]

That one, I agree.

But I believe that false journalism directed at a candidate or party, and false statements by candidates, during an election is also voter fraud because they try to trick people into giving up their vote.

So obviously, given the integrity of our wonderful politicians, I see enough fraud to go around.

People expect falsehood to flow from the mouths of politicians. Most folks, general speaking I think, believe media outlets are biased one direction or another.

But when professionals within our intelligence services, who are sworn to be unbiased, throw their integrity out the window and swear to a known falsehood for the purpose of election interference….

… they do enormous harm to the trust Americans have in those institutions…..

…. and…. Then you have folks readily believing any and every conspiracy that comes around and why not?????

If there is no institution within the government, or private institutions, that can be trusted to tell the truth (based on demonstrated corruption) then everything on the internet begins with the same level credibility for better or worse.

peace to you

 

[JonC]

People expect falsehood to flow from the mouths of politicians. Most folks, general speaking I think, believe media outlets are biased one direction or another.

But when professionals within our intelligence services, who are sworn to be unbiased, throw their integrity out the window and swear to a known falsehood for the purpose of election interference….

… they do enormous harm to the trust Americans have in those institutions…..

…. and…. Then you have folks readily believing any and every conspiracy that comes around and why not?????

If there is no institution within the government, or private institutions, that can be trusted to tell the truth (based on demonstrated corruption) then everything on the internet begins with the same level credibility for better or worse.

peace to you

That is a problem. Another is the conspiracy sites are no better. It becomes subjective truth....just pick which narrative suits you.

That said, I do not believe the issue is corrupt government agencies as much as corrupt government leaders of those agencies. It is more what we see on the surface and how agencies are misused.

I say this as somebody who has worked for, or with, government agencies most of my life...DOD, DCSA, OPM, or DOE.....most working for these agencies have integrity. The problem is the high leadership positions are political.

 

[percho]

I knew the story was suppressed. And I agree that it was election fraud. I just didn't know that the validity had been questioned.

Watch Min 39 to min 42

"Bidenomics" Exposed In Hilarious Viral Video (Ep. 2168) - 01/18/2023 (rumble.com)

They new in 2019

 

[canadyjd]

That is a problem. Another is the conspiracy sites are no better. It becomes subjective truth....just pick which narrative suits you.

That said, I do not believe the issue is corrupt government agencies as much as corrupt government leaders of those agencies. It is more what we see on the surface and how agencies are misused.

I say this as somebody who has worked for, or with, government agencies most of my life...DOD, DCSA, OPM, or DOE.....most working for these agencies have integrity. The problem is the high leadership positions are political.

Most folks only see the corruption of the leaders. As I said, the integrity of these agencies has been destroyed by obvious corruption.

peace to you

 

[MrW]

Watch Min 39 to min 42

"Bidenomics" Exposed In Hilarious Viral Video (Ep. 2168) - 01/18/2023 (rumble.com)

They new in 2019

Of course they knew it and we knew they did and we knew they were lying about it; we knew they know Joe has dementia, we knew they know it’s Hunter’s cocaine in the White House, Hunter gives Joe a cut of the bribery money, the laptop was real, they lost the election in 2020, there’s injustice against Trump and his supporters, and no justice against dems.

We knew and we know that they knew—it’s just virtually impossible to get them to admit it.