Question about the term "Lucifer"

[JonC]

I've seen threads addressing this, but I was not too clear on the matter.

From my reading, I feel that Lucifer is a name referring to an exalted place or state. I think that it illustrates the fall of the Babylon king out of pride, can allude to the fall of Satan, and the exalted state of Christ.

Lucifer occurs in the KJV by a translation of the (Hebrew heilel ben-schahar) Greek word “herosphorus” into Latin. If I’m not mistaken, it was introduced in the 5th century translation by Jerome. Lucifer is also found as the name for the “morning star” in Roman literature (not referring to Satan).

I think that it would be safe to say that “Lucifer” is a proper name for Satan only in Christian tradition. I am looking for comments and opinions about the accepting the term as an exalted state.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

I've seen threads addressing this, but I was not too clear on the matter.

From my reading, I feel that Lucifer is a name referring to an exalted place or state. I think that it illustrates the fall of the Babylon king out of pride, can allude to the fall of Satan, and the exalted state of Christ.

Lucifer occurs in the KJV by a translation of the (Hebrew heilel ben-schahar) Greek word “herosphorus” into Latin. If I’m not mistaken, it was introduced in the 5th century translation by Jerome. Lucifer is also found as the name for the “morning star” in Roman literature (not referring to Satan).

I think that it would be safe to say that “Lucifer” is a proper name for Satan only in Christian tradition. I am looking for comments and opinions about the accepting the term as an exalted state.

You are correct.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Aaron]

John Calvin agrees:

How art thou fallen from heaven! Isaiah proceeds with the discourse which he had formerly begun as personating the dead, and concludes that the tyrant differs in no respect from other men, though his object was to lead men to believe that he was some god. He employs an elegant metaphor, by comparing him to Lucifer, and calls him the Son of the Dawn; and that on account of his splendor and brightness with which he shone above others. The exposition of this passage, which some have given, as if it referred to Satan, has arisen from ignorance; for the context plainly shows that these statements must be understood in reference to the king of the Babylonians. But when passages of Scripture are taken up at random, and no attention is paid to the context, we need not wonder that mistakes of this kind frequently arise. Yet it was an instance of very gross ignorance, to imagine that Lucifer was the king of devils, and that the Prophet gave him this name. But as these inventions have no probability whatever, let us pass by them as useless fables.

 

[Logos1560]

You can find an informative article about "Lucifer" at the following web address:

http://www.kjv-only.com/isa14_12.html

 

[LeBuick]

Technically, Lucifer was the name of the arch angel but when he fell he became Satan which is the deciever. So I submit to you that Lucifer and Satan are one in the same.

Here is Lucifer falling from heaven;

Isaiah 14:12-15 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Here is proof this same Lucifer was in Eden;

Ezekiel 28:13-15 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Now either Lucifer is Satan or Satan was also in heaven, fell to the earth and brought angels with him;

Revelation 12:9 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

[JonC]

Thank you all for your input.

John