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Question for Pre-Tribbers (not to debate you)

webdog

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Pre-trib-dispensationalism is the 19th century invention of John Nelson Darby while he was recovering from a riding accident at his sister's home as has been documented on this Forum repeatedly. Seventh Day Adventism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, and the Mormons are also 19th Century inventions of men/women!
This has been shown to be false many times. Allen used to post numerous quotes from pre 19th century theologians that held to it.
 

webdog

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I tend to agree. Not only does such a view make the church virtually irrelevant, but also deprecates the sacrifice of He who died for her. Not to mention that such a view is founded in atrocious self-righteousness and bordering on full-on Pelagianism. :(

By the way, in reference to this statement: "Right now many scholars put it at about 40 percent who attend regularly are actually saved." I would like to see what "scholars" made that claim, and examine their research methods, the size of their sample, and how, exactly, they determined who was saved and who was lost.

Until then it is just mindless drivel. :(
Replacement theology is what's truly self righteous.
 

asterisktom

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Replacement theology is what's truly self righteous.

It is not replacement theology but fulfillment theology. In the same way the butterfly is transformed from a caterpillar so the old man (of the old covenant) is changed to the new man in Christ. Anyone among the Jews who believe in Christ are part of the new man, the body of Christ. This is not replacement for the Jew but maturation, growing up and away from the tutor of the Law (Gal.).

Pre-trib argues for a return of the butterfly to a caterpillar stage. But the sole purpose of that stage - the Levitical Priesthood, Law and the Prophets - was preparation for Christ's ministry of bringing in true righteousness - apart from the Law.

It is pretrib that is truly self-righteous. It argues that Christ's righteousness imputed to believing Jews and Gentiles now is still not sufficient.
 
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