Question For You, Hebrews 10:28

[Iconoclast]

Hebrews 9:28 so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him. (NASB: Lockman)

Greek: outos kai o Christos, hapax prosenechtheis (APPMSN) eis to pollon anenegkein (AAN) amartias, ek deuterou choris hamartias ophthesetai (3SFPI) tois auton apekdechomenois (PMPMPD) eis soterian.
Amplified: Even so it is that Christ, having been offered to take upon Himself and bear as a burden the sins of many once and once for all, will appear a second time, not to carry any burden of sin nor to deal with sin, but to bring to full salvation those who are [eagerly, constantly, and patiently] waiting for and expecting Him. (Amplified Bible - Lockman)
Barclay: so Christ, after being once and for all sacrificed to bear the burden of the sins of many, will appear a second time, not this time to deal with sin, but for the salvation of those who are waiting for him. (Westminster Press)
NLT: so also Christ died only once as a sacrifice to take away the sins of many people. He will come again but not to deal with our sins again. This time he will bring salvation to all those who are eagerly waiting for him. (NLT - Tyndale House)
Phillips: so it is certain that Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many and after that, to those who look for him, he will appear a second time, not this time to deal with sin, but to bring them to full salvation. (Phillips: Touchstone)
Wuest: thus also the Messiah once was offered for the purpose of bearing the sins of many; a second time apart from sin shall He be manifested to those who eagerly wait for Him [Israel], resulting in salvation. (Eerdmans)
Young's Literal: so also the Christ, once having been offered to bear the sins of many, a second time, apart from a sin-offering, shall appear, to those waiting for him -- to salvation!

Without reference (5565) (choris) means separate, apart from and in this context means without any relation to sacrifice for sin. John sees the Messiah in heaven in Revelation 5 (see note Revelation 5:6) as a Lamb slain (the marks from Calvary that eternally document and validate His everlasting new covenant), , He does not return as a Lamb to be sacrificed again. There is no need for a second sacrifice, because His one time sacrifice was for all time.

 

[DaChaser1]

There's no suspicion, and even if there were it wouldn't erase the fact that some comments are errant and akin to Gnosticism. If you feel in yourself that this was met with indignance, that's all on you. Resistance? Absolutely. Are we really this thin skinned within the church? Apparently.

Someone makes a claim that Jesus had a sin nature, and you come up with "suspicion" as the culprit? Interesting.

In addition to this, there is the naivete who thinks that it is not likely that others would come to a forum, a theological forum to propagate heresy? Really? No need to be that naive about reality.

Non adherence to orthodox teachings have always been used to shed light upon error.

Interesting discussion here regarding wether Bible refers to jesus as being the Temple in Hebrews, or if actual temple was in heaven that he applied his blood unto in Ascension...

did we determine if Jesus was seen as being a sinner, or not was fully God?

 

[Paul from Antioch]

Interesting discussion here regarding wether Bible refers to jesus as being the Temple in Hebrews, or if actual temple was in heaven that he applied his blood unto in Ascension...

did we determine if Jesus was seen as being a sinner, or not was fully God?

This may have been covered in a previous posting, but it's been my understanding that the primary reason for the Book of Hebrews was to edify & alert the early Christians (Who were primarily Jews, & thereby accustomed to abiding to the OT regulations regarding one's own personal faith when it was confronted with the trials that the 1st Century AD Jewish Christians had to deal with). Luke, the doctor and documenter (The Book of Acts) chronicled many of these confrontations. OTOH, Hebrews was written possibly before AD 70 when the Jerusalem Temple was destroyed by the Gentile Romans..... The principle reason for Hebrews was to take mainly OT "Heroes of the (Jewish) Faith," & use their "by Faith" actions as a means to not only edify, but also to encourage these 1st Century AD Jewish converts to Christianity to continue on in their new-found faith in the Risen Savior Jesus Christ, in spite of the opposition & even being put to death as Stephen was for the honor & glory of their Savior..... As Jesus Himself, in the parable of the Sower and the Seed illustrated, the Seed (God's Saving Word) fell on various kinds of soils, and thus either bloomed & blossomed or was chocked & captured by the Evil one Satan. That some seed fell on stony soil & thus had no root, that seed produced nothing and therefore was cast aside. Likewise, such seeds would "loose their 'Salvation'" because they never really had it to begin with. OTOH, what good seed fell on good soil DID produce good fruit, and thus continued on in that faith. The writer of Hebrews was merely comparing & contrasting what the good seed (The Gospel of Salvation) produced. In Hebrews 10:19 through 13:25, the writer states the impossibility of a true believer, on the one hand, the impossibility of losing his/her eternal salvation, and on the other hand warning them NOT to lose their sanctification by falling back to the sinful ways that they experienced prior to exercising saving faith in Christ Jesus. IMHO, the Book of Hebrews shows us that, while it's IMPOSSIBLE to lose one's salvation (assuming, of course, that they DID exercise saving faith in Jesus Christ) to lose what they, by themselves, couldn't do, but, OTOH, it IS quite possible to lose what they never had (i.e., the stony soil) in the first place.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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