Question on Reformed Theology

[ReformedBaptist]

The man's nature to be a rebel against God may be causing this issue for him. I am surprised no one just exhorts him to the Scripture that commands him to repent and believe the Gospel, regardless of how he reasons out the process. God works by means...and commands him and everyone to repent and believe the Gospel.

 

[Salamander]

Salamander: I am an absolute calvinist, and I did not adjust the scriptures to bring this chap the full distance to Christ. No rightly schooled calvinist would deny the gospel.

Cheers,

Jim

And I NEVER said you did either. I replied to this thread with what God SAID would happen if a man would search for Him with all their heart and it brought this sort of response from you.

 

[Salamander]

If a Calvinist disagreed with that verse, it would certainly be by taking God's word and manipulating it to fit his understanding. But let me ask you this: Which Calvinists disagree with this verse? I don't know of any.

God made a general statement to any man, not just a few.:godisgood:

Let me now ask, since God said, "Let us come and reason together"(Isaiah 1:18), why is it when some one tries to reason with God based upon His word, compared with man's theologies, is it OBJECTED that men should NEVER try to reason with God???

 

[Me4Him]

I`m paranoid now that my attempt to become a christian is futile- especially since if God did appoint me, this wouldn`t be such a struggle. I wouldn`t be having such a hard time believing. It would be `irresistable` as it`s been called.



So should I give up? Stop reading the bible? Stop going to church? The gospel is obviously not meant to save, rather to....I guess...show people how and that they`re saved?

Faith, the size of a mustard seed, can move mountains,

so how much "DOUBT" do you think it would take to stop it???

That was the message this person heard in the doctrine of "predestination", creating his "doubt".

He should have heard,

Ac 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


Mt 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

 

[Pastor Larry]

God made a general statement to any man, not just a few.

I agree. So does Calvinism. What's your point?

Let me now ask, since God said, "Let us come and reason together"(Isaiah 1:18), why is it when some one tries to reason with God based upon His word, compared with man's theologies, is it OBJECTED that men should NEVER try to reason with God???

I am not sure you are using Isaiah 1:18 properly here. The point there is that man needs to accept his utter sinfulness, not that man needs to try to argue with God about something.

But I think we should reason using God's word, and submitting our reason to the truth of Scripture. I reject man's theologies.

 

[Salamander]

I agree. So does Calvinism. What's your point?

Well taken I see.

I am not sure you are using Isaiah 1:18 properly here. The point there is that man needs to accept his utter sinfulness, not that man needs to try to argue with God about something.

Ok, I see why you choose to remain unsure, you think I said "come let us argue together" and I actually said that God said....

But I think we should reason using God's word, and submitting our reason to the truth of Scripture. I reject man's theologies.

I know we should use God's word to reason with God, not as you said we should reason using God's word as a tool in our hands.

How can you submit to something you're already subjecting to others by your theology?

God typically is saying, "When you don't understand, come to me, although you will not understand everything, trust that I know what you need to understand. When your reasoning runs into a deadend, remember, my reasoning is life eternal."

 

[Pastor Larry]

Ok, I see why you choose to remain unsure.

Unsure about what?

I know we should use God's word to reason with God, not as you said we should reason using God's word as a tool in our hands.

Not sure what your distinction here is. When we reason, we must do it in light of God's word and what he tells us.

How can you submit to something you're already subjecting to others by your theology?

Again, not sure what this means.

God typically is saying, "When you don't understand, come to me, although you will not understand everything, trust that I know what you need to understand. When your reasoning runs into a deadend, remember, my reasoning is life eternal."

And where does God say this?

 

[ray Marshall]

I was asked this question today, I thought it would be a good discussion:

The saving grace of GOD is not a condition that one has to meet, but rather an evidence that you are one of his.
I and others sometimes have our doubts to our salvation, but when in Church the Pastor preaches sound doctrine and in the spirit, you get a blessing that you can hardly contain. Wait to probably Monday or Tuesday, Satan won't to wrestle you with doubts.
You are on the right path if you hunger and thirst after righteousness.