Question women and dresses

[GrannyGumbo]

Where in the Bible does God talk about someone being a pain in the ass...but He does talk plenty about whores. Now if you choose to call me a jack ass (which is not the same as what you said), you'd better have a kjBible to back it up in proving that I am one. There are scriptures to show that these women I speak of are dressed and look like whores. When you see cleavage hanging out from underneath their shorty shorts and cleavage hanging all around their tube/halter tops, and the little girls have see thru' clingies on where their undies are showing and tons of makeup caked on...then yes, they are dressed the part of a whore.

In scripture, the word sodomite describes an abomination and the sin/sinner of it is condemned. Did God burn the sodomite or the sodomy?

Talk about intolerance...America has become tolerant of everyone except Bible-believing Christians!

 

[PreachTREE]

JohnV, what would you wear to meet the president? business meeting? etc. etc. When we go to church we are there to serve God and worship Him. Who is the president and other high ranking officials compared to God? its funny to know that people would dress up for the president, a high-class dinner, graduation party, wedding, blah blah blah- but when it comes to God, we tend to dress casually. It doesnt make sense to me.

 

[PreachTREE]

Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:

Talk about intolerance...America has become tolerant of everyone except Bible-believing Christians!

This is so true.

 

[GrannyGumbo]

Thanks, PreachTREE. God bless.

 

[Petrel]

Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:
Where in the Bible does God talk about someone being a pain in the ass...but He does talk plenty about whores. . .

Yeah, but he doesn't talk about faggots at all. That's a modern vulgarity.

 

[donnA]

doesn't anyone think we could use some kind of word editing on this thread

 

[GrannyGumbo]

Well, normally I call them sodomites, but someone asked me about the term 'sodomite britches' so I obliged with a word they would understand, which is like a firebrand, which is in the Bible. I do not understand the modern term 'homosexual' as it seems to dilute the abomination of what they are. And they are NOT gay, for God says it wrong to call evil good.

 

[Petrel]

Originally posted by donnA:
doesn't anyone think we could use some kind of word editing on this thread

That's been my stance all along!

GrannyGumbo, don't be disingenuous. The word "fag" or "faggot" applied to homosexuals has absolutely nothing to do with firebrands or bundles of sticks.

 

[GrannyGumbo]

Well, donnA, I feel the same way when they run a thread on thongs for weeks, and also on birth control, and other things.

 

[webdog]

Originally posted by PreachTREE:
JohnV, what would you wear to meet the president? business meeting? etc. etc. When we go to church we are there to serve God and worship Him. Who is the president and other high ranking officials compared to God? its funny to know that people would dress up for the president, a high-class dinner, graduation party, wedding, blah blah blah- but when it comes to God, we tend to dress casually. It doesnt make sense to me.

If you want to meet the president, you have to make an appointment months in advance, and hope he wants to see you. We can drop to our knees 24/7 and meet with the creator of the universe! Cultural appointments and attire do not concern our Lord, or He would have never had dinner with the tax collectors, prostitutes, etc. Jesus wants us just as we are, our hearts, not our clothes.

 

[GrannyGumbo]

And the word homosexual has absolutely nothing to do with Biblical sodomites, which God condemns. Are you defending them?

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:
When you see cleavage hanging out from underneath their shorty shorts and cleavage hanging all around their tube/halter tops, and the little girls have see thru' clingies on where their undies are showing and tons of makeup caked on...then yes, they are dressed the part of a whore. ... In scripture, the word sodomite describes an abomination and the sin/sinner of it is condemned.

Okay, I'll go with that. But you're wrong on your definitions. Scripturally in the KJV, a "whore" and "sodomite" are female and male temple prostitutes in the OT whose purpose was for the practice of idolatry in temples of false deities. You ar not using the definitions scripturally. For you to use scripture to as a defense for you using these terms is, frankly, unscripturally supportable.

But again, just because the Bible uses the word, doesn't mean it's appropriate to use in common conversation.

Talk about intolerance...America has become tolerant of everyone except Bible-believing Christians!

What a copout. You didn't even use scripture in a bible-believing manner. You complain that America is so bad because "repent" is no longer being preached. It's clear that, for you, it is surely not being practiced. Look, I love you as a sister in the Lord, and I'm sorry to be harsh, but you're wrong here.

 

[PreachTREE]

attire does concern our Lord. why would he clothe adam and eve? Christ does want our hearts, but what is in our hearts should be reflected in all aspects of our lives. Christ loves and saves prostitutes, drug dealers, crackheads, murderers, but doesnt want them to stay at that condition. Dressing different counts.

 

[GrannyGumbo]

No I'm not, Johnv.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by PreachTREE:
JohnV, what would you wear to meet the president? business meeting?

A suit and tie to meet POTUS, and dockers and a polo to a business meeting. I do these out of custom.

When we go to church we are there to serve God and worship Him. Who is the president and other high ranking officials compared to God?

That's a false analogy. We don't go to church to meet God. We go to church to fellowship with other believers. In my church, shorts and a polo are acceptible in the summer. In other parts of the country, long pants are always required. In the church I went to in Maui, it was, literally, come as you are. And, since the church was beachfront, people came as they were, in beach attire. This was normal for them.

Again, I ask, who are we to consider it inappropriate for them? I was there, and saw firsthand that it was not inappropriate, immodest, immoral, or unscriptural. Some of you folks seem to have a probelm with that.

Originally posted by PreachTREE:
attire does concern our Lord. why would he clothe adam and eve? Christ does want our hearts, but what is in our hearts should be reflected in all aspects of our lives.

I agree with your sentiments completely. I'm pointing out, however, that what we consider appropriately modest, is not what someone else may consider modest. If it qualifies in their setting and culture, then we need not judge them by it. Such was the case with the church service I attended in Maui, and such is the case in regards to men at my church sometimes being allowed to wear shorts.

 

[PreachTREE]

Originally posted by Johnv:
[QB] A suit and tie to meet POTUS, and dockers and a polo to a business meeting. I do these out of custom.

out of custom? what custom is that? show respect for people that deserve it?

We go to church to fellowship with other believers.

thats only one aspect. we go to church to worship God.

In the church I went to in Maui, it was, literally, come as you are. And, since the church was beachfront, people came as they were, in beach attire. This was normal for them.

is Hawaii your authority? do not even use hawaiiain culture to prove your point. i have more authority on island culture than you do.

Again, I ask, who are we to consider it inappropriate for them?

you are exactly right. God does the consideration.

I was there, and saw firsthand that it was not inappropriate, immodest, immoral, or unscriptural. Some of you folks seem to have a probelm with that.

the world's standards change. not God's.

 

[Petrel]

Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:
And the word homosexual has absolutely nothing to do with Biblical sodomites, which God condemns. Are you defending them?

What a cute straw man! Nice diversion there--wouldn't want anyone to notice your unsuccessful attempt to excuse the use of common vulgarity as biblical.

 

[PreachTREE]

i dont need a specific bible verse to tell me how to dress for God. God deserves my best.

 

[Petrel]

I dress up a bit for church, but not excessively because I think it's unnecessary and I don't want to make those who can't afford nice clothes feel out of place. I consider that God is with me all the time. I've worshipped God in boxers and a t-shirt, and I don't think he really cares if I wear that or dress clothes when I'm speaking to him.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by PreachTREE:
out of custom? what custom is that? show respect for people that deserve it?

The custom of contemporary fashion rules of semi-formal attire. 200 years ago, I'd have worn legings and dickie. That would not be appropriate today, neither to see the President, or for church attire, though it does satisfy the requisite of modesty.

thats only one aspect. we go to church to worship God.

We should be worhipping God 24/7, without ceasing.

is Hawaii your authority?

There's an old saying" When in Rome, do as a roman. When I'm worhipping with a group on Christians on a Hawaiian beach, I will do as they.

do not even use hawaiiain culture to prove your point. i have more authority on island culture than you do.

I don't presume to speak fo every church in Hawaii, any more than I can speak for every church on the mainland. I can, however, speak for my own personal experience, which was not my only experience on the topic.

you are exactly right. God does the consideration. the world's standards change. not God's.

We agree. The worship experience I attended was not immoral, inappropriate, immodest. So I fail to see the furor over it.