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Questioning My belief in pre trib rapture

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DHK

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That is false. I have never tried to tell you what you believe. I have simply posted facts about the doctrine of Darby's pre-trib-dispensationalism.
There is none so blind as those who cannot see.
I keep telling you that I have not read Darby. I do not agree with everything Darby says. Why should I? I don't know of any man that I agree with on everything. You position on this is totally absurd.
I have never admitted to a "parenthesis Church," and I am sure I don't believe it. The basic reason for that is my view on ecclesiology, which you don't have a clue about.
Perhaps it is you who need to grow up, in the faith that is!
Learn what a person believes before you post lies.
 

OldRegular

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There is none so blind as those who cannot see.
I keep telling you that I have not read Darby. I do not agree with everything Darby says. Why should I? I don't know of any man that I agree with on everything. You position on this is totally absurd.
I have never admitted to a "parenthesis Church," and I am sure I don't believe it. The basic reason for that is my view on ecclesiology, which you don't have a clue about.
You say a lot about what you don't believe but beyond belief in the Darby's pre-trib-rapture little about what you do believe.

Learn what a person believes before you post lies.
If I have posted a lie then show it or brand yourself as a liar!
 

Salty

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I would like to chirp in here just a little bit -
Lets be very careful about calling someone a liar here on this board.:1_grouphug:
 

DHK

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You say a lot about what you don't believe but beyond belief in the Darby's pre-trib-rapture little about what you do believe.
Yes, I believe in a pre-trib rapture. So? Darby believes in a whole lot more than a pre-trib rapture that I don't believe. Those are things that you keep attributing to me falsely. I keep telling you what they are. You can read. Go back and read them for yourself.
If I have posted a lie then show it or brand yourself as a liar!
I have already posted them, and many times.
 

webdog

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Hello Everyone. I have been doing a bible study on the prophecies of the second coming and today I was reading Matthew 24 and it spoke about the elect and it makes me wonder if the elect means Christians and if that is so does that mean We will be in the trbulation?

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

The other thing that makes Me wonder is 1 Thessalonians 4:16

16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever

Id like some opinion on this . Thanks for reading and responding. God Bless
The elect in context is speaking of the Jews. The entire purpose of the Great Tribulation is to judge an unbelieving world as well as to restore Israel to God.
 

OldRegular

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Yes, I believe in a pre-trib rapture. So? Darby believes in a whole lot more than a pre-trib rapture that I don't believe. Those are things that you keep attributing to me falsely. I keep telling you what they are. You can read. Go back and read them for yourself.

I have already posted them, and many times.

Most of your posts have simply complained because:

1. I post the truth about John Nelson Darby, the originator of pre-trib-dispensationalism, and his disciples such as Scofield, Pentecost, Chafer, Walvoord, and Ryrie.

2. That truth includes their their doctrine that the Church, for which jesus Christ died, is simply an interruption in God's program for Israel!

I have attributed nothing to you falsely. If I have then identify the post!
 

Dr. Bob

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Appears to be no hope for any more civilized discussion. Degenerated beyond repair and nothing new added, so saying sayonara to this topic.
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