Questions on the Person of Christ

[SATS PROF]

Forgive me for posting again in this forum.

"What think ye of Christ?" is a very good question. IMO, many believers are quite ignorant about issues related to the Person of our LORD. For this reason, I attached my essay examining a great number of issues.

I will stop posting for a few days to give anyone who wishes to actually reading my uploaded files.

Bill

 

[37818]

Luke 18:19, ". . . And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. . . ."
The Son was both fully a man and always fully God. Both the same God and a different Person than God.
Hebrews 4:15, ". . . For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. . . ."

 

[SATS PROF]

Luke 18:19, ". . . And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. . . ."
The Son was both fully a man and always fully God. Both the same God and a different Person than God.
Hebrews 4:15, ". . . For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. . . ."

Luke 18:19, ". . . And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. . . ."
The Son was both fully a man and always fully God. Both the same God and a different Person than God.
Hebrews 4:15, ". . . For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. . . ."

Those are very good verses. Which other verse would use to argue for or against Cyril that no acts of Christ is that of only His human nature? (contrast Augustine). But how shall we understand the Gospels without answering that Christological question?

 

[37818]

Which other verse would use to argue for or against Cyril that no acts of Christ is that of only His human nature?

The Son of God is one distinct Person, Having His own singular will, even though He is the same God as the Father, He is another Person, John 1:2, before His incarnation, John 1:14.
John 5:18-19, and Luke 22:42, ". . . Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. . . ."
See Does Christ Have Two Wills or One? | Reasonable Faith

 

[Alan Gross]

Forgive me for posting again in this forum.

Post all you want, in any fitting forum, according to me.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

I think the two natures of the Lord Jesus are very clearly seen in the Stilling of the Storm (Mark 4:35-41). When He comes on board, He falls asleep (v.38). Why does He do that? Because He is tired, obviously. But God does not get tired (Isaiah 40:28). Jesus is a Man; He gets weary (John 4:6), hungry (Matthew 4:2) and thirsty (John 19:28). He is Man as if He were not God.
But when the disciples wake Him, crying, "Teacher, don't You care if we perish?" He rises, rebukes the wind and says to the sea, "Peace, be still!" He does not pray to the Father to still the wind and the waves; He Himself commands them, 'and the wind ceased and there was a great calm.' No wonder the disciples said to one another, "Who can this be?" He is God; God as if He were not Man.

So I would say, contra Cyril, that there is at least two things that our Lord does (becoming tired and sleeping) purely according to His human nature.

 

[kyredneck]

Luke 18:19, ". . . And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. . . ."

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd layeth down his life for the sheep. Jn 10

 

[37818]

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd layeth down his life for the sheep. Jn 10

Not at issue. Acts 10:43, ". . . To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of sins. . . ." Isaiah 43:11, ". . . I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour. . . ."

 

[kyredneck]

But how shall we understand the Gospels without answering that Christological question?

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth. Jn 1

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

From the OP file:

McCleod, for example, asserts “Nestorius almost certainly was not a Nestorian” (The Person of Christ, 182).​

Now I think we’re getting somewhere! No, seriously.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I'm not so sure that PDF indicates that “many believers are quite ignorant about issues related to the Person of our LORD.” It may, however, indicate that many theologians “are quite ignorant about issues related to the Person of our LORD.”

Seriously, trying to further define what Scripture says about the Lord Jesus Christ more often than not seems to cause confusion rather than provide a better understanding.

What’s worse, all too often the focus of scripture is lost, namely not only a greater appreciation for the Lord Jesus Christ, but a closer walk with him, which includes better fellowship with other believers.