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percho

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Did the devil exist during the first five days of creation?

Is the devil omnipresent?

Where was the devil during those first five days?

In your opinion was there at that time a plan in the mind of God to destroy the devil?

How was God going to accomplish that plan relative to time?

As to the rest, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might; put on the whole armour of God, for your being able to stand against the wiles of the devil, because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places;
 

Silverhair

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Did the devil exist during the first five days of creation?
Yes
Is the devil omnipresent?
No
Where was the devil during those first five days?
Not stated
In your opinion was there at that time a plan in the mind of God to destroy the devil?
Yes
How was God going to accomplish that plan relative to time?
Read the book of Revelation. Satan = devil
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison,

Rev 20:10 And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 

Alan Dale Gross

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Did the devil exist during the first five days of creation?
Of course, who do you think deceived Eve?
Genesis 3:1-15
"Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’” / The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, / but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’” ...

Is the devil omnipresent?
Absolutely not.

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."
James 4:7.


Where was the devil during those first five days?
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" I Peter 5:8.

In your opinion was there at that time a plan in the mind of God to destroy the devil?
Certainly, without any doubt.

1 John 3:8;
"The one who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil."

How was God going to accomplish that plan relative to time?
"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Revelation 13:8.

As to the rest, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might; put on the whole armour of God, for your being able to stand against the wiles of the devil, because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places;
"...be strong in the Lord, and in the Power of His Might;
put on the whole armour of God...
!!!!!!!
 
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David Lamb

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Did the devil exist during the first five days of creation?
We are not told either when the devil was created or when he fell.
Is the devil omnipresent?
We are not told, as far as I know, but unless there is only one sinner sinning at any time, he must be, at least to the extent that he can tempt people all around the world.
Where was the devil during those first five days?
If we don't know when he was created, or when he fell, we certainly cannot say what he was doing during the first five days.
In your opinion was there at that time a plan in the mind of God to destroy the devil?
Yes. God knows all things before they happen.
How was God going to accomplish that plan relative to time?
I don't understand what the question means/ The bible has much to say about the devil's judgment and punishment, but how God will actually bring it to pass. Revelation tells us that the devil will be cast into the lake of fire, but not how God will accomplish that.
As to the rest, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might; put on the whole armour of God, for your being able to stand against the wiles of the devil, because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places;
Very encouraging, those verses from Ephesians 6 about the heavenly armour.
 

Van

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Angels were created before God laid the foundation of the earth, Job 38:7, but the one who became Satan does not seem to have fallen until after the earth was created, because Jesus describes the fall like lightning out of heaven. However, that implication is not logically necessitated. Clearly the fall of Satan occurred before Satan appeared to Eve in the garden. :)
 

percho

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Of course, who do you think deceived Eve?
Genesis 3:1-15
"Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’” / The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, / but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’” ...


Absolutely not.

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."
James 4:7.


"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" I Peter 5:8.



Certainly, without any doubt.

1 John 3:8;
"The one who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil."


"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Revelation 13:8.


"...be strong in the Lord, and in the Power of His Might;
put on the whole armour of God...
!!!!!!!
1 John 3:8 NKJV He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
Heb 2:14 YLT Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through [the] death he might destroy him that had the power of [the] death, that is, the devil;

Was the man, Adam, created for the purpose of the Son of God to be manifested as man because of, the death?

Heb 2:9 YLT and him who was made some little less than messengers we see -- Jesus -- because of the suffering of the death, with glory and honour having been crowned, that by the grace of God for every one he might taste of death.

Is the death the end result of the works of the devil?

Was death a thing, on the earth, before Adam brought it forth into the Kosmos?
 

Eternally Grateful

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Did the devil exist during the first five days of creation?
we are not told. All we know was he was there when he deceived Eve
Is the devil omnipresent?
No.
Where was the devil during those first five days?
The bible does not say if he even was alive then
In your opinion was there at that time a plan in the mind of God to destroy the devil?
God knows all.. Before time even began..
How was God going to accomplish that plan relative to time?
The cross
As to the rest, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might; put on the whole armour of God, for your being able to stand against the wiles of the devil, because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places;
 

Alan Dale Gross

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Was the man, Adam, created for the purpose of the Son of God to be manifested as man
The Son of God was already "as a Lamb slain before the foundation of the world", and was God's Offering to Satisfy the debt of sin for His Chosen ones, having been Predestined to be the Savior God Provided (a Lamb) before Adam was Predestined, and then created and had his subsequent Fall.

Was the man, Adam, created for the purpose of the Son of God to be manifested as man because of, the death?
One of Jesus' Glorious Accomplishments was to Defeat death and the grave, certainly.

that through [the] death he might destroy him that had the power of [the] death, that is, the devil;
There that is.

and him who was made some little less than messengers we see -- Jesus -- because of the suffering of the death, with glory and honour having been crowned, that by the grace of God for every one he might taste of death.
Another monumental Accomplishment of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection was for God to bring Glory and Honour to His Son, Whom God Crowned with Eternal Glory, having Raised Him from the dead, to have Eternal Life Procured OVER death, i.e., dead as a CORPSE IN A CASKET AT THEIR FUNERAL.

Is the death the end result of the works of the devil?
Satan would like to kill as many souls as he could, BEFORE THEY HAVE THE CHANCE TO BE SAVED, but that plan of his doesn't work out the way he would like, since whom God Foreknew, He also did Predestinate, and whom He did Predestinate He also Called, and whom God Calls are ALL JUSTIFIED AND GLORIFIED IN DUE SEASON. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

Was death a thing, on the earth, before Adam brought it forth into the Kosmos?
No, and that is why there is no 'gap theory', or 'day age theory', or 'theistic evolution theory' that could even be considered, since sin came by one man, Adam, and death by sin.

To think that there were thousands of years, or so, with animals populating the earth without dying, where were they supposed to have put them? It's perposterous.
 

percho

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@Alan Dale Gross

Your thoughts for I believe you to be well thoughtful.


Romans 5:12 YLT because of this, even as through one man the sin did enter into the world, and through the sin the death; and thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin;

What is meant by, "the world"? - Greek - τὸν κόσμον

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

foreknown, indeed, before [πρό] the foundation of the world, and manifested in the last times because of you, 1 Peter 1:20
And bow before it shall all who are dwelling upon the land, whose names have not been written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb slain from [ ἀπό] the foundation of the world; Rev 13:8

Before and from, of-a-casting-down, of the world. When did, of-a-casting-down, take place relative to Gen 1:1?

simultaneously
before
after
none of the above

?

Did sin enter the earth by Adam or did Sin enter the world by Adam and or does it matter?

Was sin on the earth before Adam was created?

Does that matter?
 
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