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Quotes from Ellen White - You Decide

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thatbrian

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Yes, as they claim to accept Jesus and the Apostles, but use EW commentaries over the Bible!

They speak out of both side of their mouths. On the one hand they say that her written words are THE Words of God, and on the other hand they say they can take them or leave them.

They officially hold that, simultaneously, Ellen G White's words are from the very mouth of God, yet they are superfluous!

To even make such contradictory statements should be embarrassing, but they seem to have no shame.
 

BobRyan

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But Ellen White's messages are the core of the SDA's doctrine.

Why do you think that??

I have heard many SDA bible studies on doctrine and I have given many - and we don't use Ellen White as a source for it nor do I know of anyone who is an actual SDA and says "here is a doctrine we got from Ellen White".

Without her, there would be no SDA.

Not because of doctrine - but rather because of correction and affirmation.

But why you would believe one person who came on the scene in the 1800's and accept their visions as gospel is beyond me.

I have a Bible and I read it. The Bible says that there is such a thing as a prophet and turns out that is a "good thing" according to the Bible. Its that simple.

In the Catholic faith we have our mystics, but their "visions" do not rise to the level of bona fide Church teaching

If you believed that God told someone that "smoking causes cancer" back in the 1800's when Ellen White was told that - and you knew they were actually hearing from God -- would you say to yourself "well yeah sure God gave that infallible statement but I am going to ignore it because it is not in the Bible"??

Really??

and doctrine as we have the amalgamation of over 2000 years of Church teachings that came/come before any of our mystics' visions from Christ.

All the doctrines of the Adventist church come from the Bible -which was around long before Ellen White or Catholics.


Why her, why not Charles Taze Russell or Joseph Smith who peddled their wares around the same time?

Have you ever actually talked to a Mormon and heard how they promote their doctrine? They claim their doctrine comes from Smith and the very first thing they want to do is read something to you that Smith believed and taught because it is core doctrine for them and they know it does not come from the Bible.

What we are talking about here -- is the exact opposite.

False prophets my friend, false prophets - and the Scriptures warn us of them.

And it also informs us of true prophets that never write a word of the Bible like Agabus in Acts, all the saints in Corinth in 1 Corinthians 14, Anna in the temple welcoming Christ, Philip's 4 daughters.

1 Thess 5
. 19 Do not quench the Spirit; 20 do not despise prophetic utterances.

1 Cor 14:1

Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.

1 Cor 12
27 Now you are Christ’s body, and individually members of it. 28 And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.

Eph 4
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Our view of it "Give me the Bible AND the WORDS IN the Bible" -- just having a Bible on the shelf does not help.

There were false prophets in John the baptizer's day -- AND there was John the baptizer.
There were false apostles in Paul's cay - AND there was Paul.

The Bible never says "ignore all prophets" but historically that is exactly the popular response to God's prophets - according to the Bible.
 

thatbrian

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At some point that will "show" in what you post... still waiting.

I know that you are used to cutting out words you don't like, but please quote my full comments in future.

I said: Most of us here read the Bible, Bob. We just do so without demonic commentary.
 
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