Race baiting is alive in well in D.C.

[sag38]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162...ersary-commemoration-draws-tens-of-thousands/

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

What the Sam Hill does Trayvon Martin have to do with Dr. Martin Luther King?

And Martin "wasn't judged on the content of his character"?? Really? I wonder what judgment of his character George Zimmerman was making as he was getting the snot beat out of him as he determined his only course of action was to use his gun?

My guess is, he found Martin's character severely lacking.

 

[sag38]

Got a keep those on the government plantation and those suffering from liberal white guilt all stirred up.

 

[Zaac]

Got a keep those on the government plantation and those suffering from liberal white guilt all stirred up.

Apparently the conservative outlets have been pretty successful at keeping angry white people riled up and crying race baiter as much as they lament Al and Jesse for crying race.

 

[Revmitchell]

Got a keep those on the government plantation and those suffering from liberal white guilt all stirred up.

Sure they do. That is how they make a living and it is how to further a political agenda. We are fortunate that we have conservative voices that expose these behaviors and speaks out against them.

 

[Zaac]

:laugh: Hilarious. The "conservative voices" do the same thing as the "liberal voices". Folks on here just ain't honest enough to admit it.

 

[JonC]

:laugh: Hilarious. The conservative "voices" do the same thing as the "liberal" voices. folks on here just ain't honest enough to admit it.

The Trayvon Martin issue demonstrates the truth of what you say. One side hails Martin as a hero and victim, the other Zimmerman. Most likely it was a terrible accident (or a misunderstanding of the other’s intention) – both could be viewed as right to some extent, and both wrong. But what we get is politicking.

 

[Zaac]

The Trayvon Martin issue demonstrates the truth of what you say. One side hails Martin as a hero and victim, the other Zimmerman. Most likely it was a terrible accident (or a misunderstanding of the other’s intention) – both could be viewed as right to some extent, and both wrong. But what we get is politicking.

Very well said.:applause:

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

The Trayvon Martin issue demonstrates the truth of what you say. One side hails Martin as a hero and victim, the other Zimmerman. Most likely it was a terrible accident (or a misunderstanding of the other’s intention) – both could be viewed as right to some extent, and both wrong. But what we get is politicking.

Very well said.:applause:

Neither of you understand the situation. You choose to accuse others of racism rather than understand your own views, and those of the mainstream black leadership, have redefined the refusal of the general population to accept the explanation of violence and criminal activity as being the result of poverty, economy, and elitism. That is the touted explanation of the liberal media and those same mainstream black leaders, to the extent that most of black society has bought the lie as reality, as well as many whites who feel guilty because of the color of their own skin.

Violence and criminal activity are the direct result of parenting, or the lack thereof. It is spreading beyond the black community into all cultural communities, not because of poverty, economy, and elitism, but because that lack of parenting when children's moral and ethical judgments are being formed.

Children born into one-parent households today is three times what it was 52 years ago, approaching 41% of overall live births in the U.S. Single-parent households now number 11.2 million in the US and continue to grow at an alarming rate. No ethnicity is immune from this disaster. Among the reasons for the increase of single-parent families is financial instability, divorce, and unplanned parenthood. Interestingly enough, single-parent families headed by men has increased nine-fold since 1960, or almost a quarter of all such households.

God's directive that one man and one woman form a marriage and be responsible for the multiplication of the human race was not just to outlaw same-sex relationships. Marriage is designed by God to provide the balance and leadership in a child's life that is intended to raise him/her up into a faithful, God-fearing and responsible adult. Single parents cannot adequately provide that balance and leadership because of the need to provide for him/herself and his/her children. There are not enough hours in the day. Unfortunately, the stories told by successful businessmen and -women and professional athletes about the sacrifices their single moms made to give them a proper upbringing and a solid moral foundation are the exception rather than the rule. Another factor in such stories is that these individuals were exceptional themselves, to have achieved what they have achieved in their lives, and while their single parent contributed significantly to that success, they had a talent or innate intellect that made their success all but inevitable.

Parenting is the key. Two parents is the key. The incidence of gang membership, violence, difficulty in school and antisocial behavior among adults raised by two parents is a very small percentage among all adults, and those two-parent families that raise their children as Christians have such a small incidence of such behavior among their offspring that the occurrence is all but immeasurable.

The black community chooses to rest on old tired arguments which are no longer valid. Rather than direct their political and social energies into assuring that not just black single-parenthood, but all single-parenthood, is brought to an end, they instead engage in race-baiting, demonizing a white man who defended himself against violence of the type that the color of the attacker made no difference. Rather than criticize and educate their own culture, they choose to make excuses for black violence that are based on almost non-existent "racist" attitudes among non-blacks. Rather than make efforts to unify, they insist on remaining "separate but equal," a mindset that nearly three generations ago their forefathers fought successfully in court.

There is prejudice in this country. Everyone is prejudiced to one degree or another about one issue or another. That isn't racism, and it cannot be eradicated until we are made perfect in heaven. But as long as personal prejudices are overly classified as racism, blacks will remain mired in the molasses of racism, making themselves the only real victims of a viewpoint they themselves perpetuate.

 

[Zaac]

Neither of you understand the situation.

:laugh:

You choose to accuse others of racism rather than understand your own views, and those of the mainstream black leadership, have redefined the refusal of the general population to accept the explanation of violence and criminal activity as being the result of poverty, economy, and elitism. That is the touted explanation of the liberal media and those same mainstream black leaders, to the extent that most of black society has bought the lie as reality, as well as many whites who feel guilty because of the color of their own skin.

Opinion

Violence and criminal activity are the direct result of parenting, or the lack thereof. It is spreading beyond the black community into all cultural communities, not because of poverty, economy, and elitism, but because that lack of parenting when children's moral and ethical judgments are being formed.

Violence and criminal activity have always been present in every community. Angry white folks and those filed with prejudice just want to act like it's just the black people committing them.

Children born into one-parent households today is three times what it was 52 years ago, approaching 41% of overall live births in the U.S. Single-parent households now number 11.2 million in the US and continue to grow at an alarming rate. No ethnicity is immune from this disaster. Among the reasons for the increase of single-parent families is financial instability, divorce, and unplanned parenthood. Interestingly enough, single-parent families headed by men has increased nine-fold since 1960, or almost a quarter of all such households.

God's directive that one man and one woman form a marriage and be responsible for the multiplication of the human race was not just to outlaw same-sex relationships. Marriage is designed by God to provide the balance and leadership in a child's life that is intended to raise him/her up into a faithful, God-fearing and responsible adult. Single parents cannot adequately provide that balance and leadership because of the need to provide for him/herself and his/her children. There are not enough hours in the day. Unfortunately, the stories told by successful businessmen and -women and professional athletes about the sacrifices their single moms made to give them a proper upbringing and a solid moral foundation are the exception rather than the rule. Another factor in such stories is that these individuals were exceptional themselves, to have achieved what they have achieved in their lives, and while their single parent contributed significantly to that success, they had a talent or innate intellect that made their success all but inevitable.

Parenting is the key. Two parents is the key. The incidence of gang membership, violence, difficulty in school and antisocial behavior among adults raised by two parents is a very small percentage among all adults, and those two-parent families that raise their children as Christians have such a small incidence of such behavior among their offspring that the occurrence is all but immeasurable.

Thanks for the info. But what you think we don't understand, I already know and fully understand.:thumbs:

The black community chooses to rest on old tired arguments which are no longer valid. Rather than direct their political and social energies into assuring that not just black single-parenthood, but all single-parenthood, is brought to an end, they instead engage in race-baiting, demonizing a white man who defended himself against violence of the type that the color of the attacker made no difference. Rather than criticize and educate their own culture, they choose to make excuses for black violence that are based on almost non-existent "racist" attitudes among non-blacks. Rather than make efforts to unify, they insist on remaining "separate but equal," a mindset that nearly three generations ago their forefathers fought successfully in court.

Or maybe they are just tired of being demonized by angry white men whose anger is stirred up by Rush and Sean, and revealed in the same talking points?

How many times have you heard on any of those shows or on this board that from the Bureau of Justice Statistics from 1980-2008 that

Most murders were intraracial-

From 1980 through 2008—
 84% of white victims were killed by whites
 93% of black victims were killed by blacks.


So again, the same thing you and a lot of folks on here and in the "conservative " media are doing is riling folks up about a select few cases the EXACT same way you complain about Jesse and Al doing. Difference being you got Drudge and Sean and Hannity to trumpet it much louder.

There is prejudice in this country. Everyone is prejudiced to one degree or another about one issue or another. That isn't racism, and it cannot be eradicated until we are made perfect in heaven. But as long as personal prejudices are overly classified as racism, blacks will remain mired in the molasses of racism, making themselves the only real victims of a viewpoint they themselves perpetuate.

You speak as though personal prejudice rests with Blacks. Whites and other skin colors do the same thing. Just like you and so many folks on here crying race baiter or troll about anything that doesn't meet your POV. They cry racism. Ya'll cry race baiter.

There's no difference.

What you may want to ask yourself is why those in the Body of Christ keep getting caught up in the foolishness of these civilian affairs and keep breeding unGodliness over skin color, politics and social ideologies.

If Christ had His rightful place in the life of the Believers in the Church, there wouldn't be time for all this other mess.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Opinion

Any "mainstream media" article, video or blog proves my point.

Violence and criminal activity have always been present in every community.

Not at the current numbers, they haven't. That's like saying, "Oh, we've always had viruses" in excusing the inaction of most world governments against AIDS.

Angry white folks and those filed with prejudice just want to act like it's just the black people committing them.

Racist statement

Thanks for the info. But what you think we don't understand, I already know and fully understand.:thumbs:

... and yet choose to ignore

Or maybe they are just tired of being demonized by angry white men ...

Another racist statement

... whose anger is stirred up by Rush and Sean, and revealed in the same talking points?

No. My answer is the correct one.

How many times have you heard on any of those shows or on this board that from the Bureau of Justice Statistics from 1980-2008 that

Most murders were intraracial-

From 1980 through 2008—
 84% of white victims were killed by whites
 93% of black victims were killed by blacks.

Regardless of overall violent crime, the blatantly ugly fact is that, in interracial crime, 94% is committed blacks on whites, while 3% is committed whites on blacks.

So again, the same thing you and a lot of folks on here and in the "conservative " media are doing is riling folks up about a select few cases the EXACT same way you complain about Jesse and Al doing.

Not so. We are pointing out the hypocrisy of black leadership, which completely ignores black-on-white crime as though it does not happen, while using the few (look at the percentages again) white-on-black crimes to cry "foul" and "racism" and other such nonsense.

Difference being you got Drudge and Sean and Hannity to trumpet it much louder.

You've got to be kidding me!!! Who is louder than Al Sharpton around a microphone? And how many media types are there eager and willing to put on under his nose?

You speak as though personal prejudice rests with Blacks.

No, I speak as though outright bigotry and racism exists almost solely among blacks. The crime stats bear that out, as does the selective attention they get from black leadership.

Whites and other skin colors do the same thing. Just like you and so many folks on here crying race baiter or troll about anything that doesn't meet your POV. They cry racism. Ya'll cry race baiter.

Because that's what black leadership does. It is nothing more than exactly that. They waste their time decrying the very few and far-between incidents of white-on-black violence while ignoring the violence of their own people against other races. If that isn't hypocrisy and race baiting, you tell me what it is, then.

There's no difference.

My turn --> :laugh:

What you may want to ask yourself is why those in the Body of Christ keep getting caught up in the foolishness of these civilian affairs and keep breeding unGodliness over skin color, politics and social ideologies.

Since when does Christ not call a hypocrite a hypocrite?

If Christ had His rightful place in the life of the Believers in the Church, there wouldn't be time for all this other mess.

[/quote]That's an accurate statement, of course. And it is appropriate to remove the log from our own eye before pointing to the splinter in the eye of our brother. However, our brother's splinter may also be a log, and perhaps it should be removed of his own volition. Catch my drift?

 

[Zaac]

Any "mainstream media" article, video or blog proves my point.

And just as many others disprove your point.

Not at the current numbers, they haven't. That's like saying, "Oh, we've always had viruses" in excusing the inaction of most world governments against AIDS.

Of course not at the current numbers. You've got more people and things will get worse just as God said they would.

Racist statement

If you say so. I'm not bothered by being told something I say is racist. Ain't but one race so when you work that out, let me know.

... and yet choose to ignore

And yet I choose to ignore those who obviously don't know what they are talking about.

Another racist statement

See statement above.

No. My answer is the correct one.

Nope.

Regardless of overall violent crime, the blatantly ugly fact is that, in interracial crime, 94% is committed blacks on whites, while 3% is committed whites on blacks.

STILL incorrect. The numbers from the Bureau of Justice Statistics clearly state the number at 85%. And when Blacks represent about 13% of the population, it stands to reason that crimes committed are against that other 87% and not themselves the majority of the time. It's a numbers things. There's more white people with more wealth. It ain't rocket science.

I bet you go to a majority Black country where they've got most of the wealth, and interracial crime rates will show the white people committing crime mostly against the majority too just based on the numbers in the population.

Not so. We are pointing out the hypocrisy of black leadership, which completely ignores black-on-white crime as though it does not happen, while using the few (look at the percentages again) white-on-black crimes to cry "foul" and "racism" and other such nonsense.

Yes so. You're not doing anything but pointing out what you feel hasn't gotten coverage. That's the same thing Al and Jesse say.

You've got to be kidding me!!! Who is louder than Al Sharpton around a microphone? And how many media types are there eager and willing to put on under his nose?

As far as angry white people go, Drudge, Sean and Rush are much louder.

No, I speak as though outright bigotry and racism exists almost solely among blacks. The crime stats bear that out, as does the selective attention they get from black leadership.

You evidence that both sides obviously see what they want to see. You think racism exists soley among Blacks. They think it exists solely amongst Whites.

The crime stats bear out that most violent crime is committed by those who look like you.

Again simple math dictates that more interracial crime is gonna be committed by the smaller population. if you're 70+percent of the population, chances are that anyone who ain't in your majority group has more pickings from your group. Why would white people who have the majority of the wealth in the country focus on the minority?

Because that's what black leadership does. It is nothing more than exactly that. They waste their time decrying the very few and far-between incidents of white-on-black violence while ignoring the violence of their own people against other races. If that isn't hypocrisy and race baiting, you tell me what it is, then.

And what you and angry White leadership do too is just that. And what few and far between?45.3% of homicides were committed by other Whites from 80 to 2008.

My turn --> :laugh:

Okay. Laughing ain't changing the truth.

Since when does Christ not call a hypocrite a hypocrite?

Now run that through a utube and back to your ears.

That's an accurate statement, of course. And it is appropriate to remove the log from our own eye before pointing to the splinter in the eye of our brother. However, our brother's splinter may also be a log, and perhaps it should be removed of his own volition. Catch my drift?

Nope. I'm not in the habit of taking advice from angry people. They are generally not listening to the prompting of the Holy Spirit because they are blinded by their own rage.

 

[just-want-peace]

Zaac: "Nope. I'm not in the habit of taking advice from angry people. They are generally not listening to the prompting of the Holy Spirit because they are blinded by their own rage."

I do believe you need to get a whole forest out of your eyes; removing one log won't cut it!:BangHead:
Pride is a devilish trait!!!raying:

 

[Zaac]

Zaac: "Nope. I'm not in the habit of taking advice from angry people. They are generally not listening to the prompting of the Holy Spirit because they are blinded by their own rage."

I do believe you need to get a whole forest out of your eyes; removing one log won't cut it!:BangHead:
Pride is a devilish trait!!!raying:

I'll let you know when I'm interested in what another member of the board clique believes I need to do.:thumbsup:

Just-want-peace...definitely a misnomer.

 

[Mexdeaf]

Pride goes before a fall.

 

[Zaac]

Pride goes before a fall.

Hmm. Might explain why so many of those conservative Christians who were sold out on supporting that Mormon anti-Christ for President are now so angry and running around about to fall.