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Race Will have some Impact

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LeBuick

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I know WV is a red state but I find some of these views interesting. Tiny, not to pick on you but what is going on in your neck of the country? Do you think having a black president, if he turns out to be good for the country, will help to resolve some of these feelings? I know these feelings are not limited to WV, what is happening in your neck of the country?

Yet here was Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, on Sunday, taking a bus tour along the Ohio-West Virginia border — a white, economically depressed region where the Republican ticket, it turns out, is now struggling to prevail. And on a weekend when racial issues flared once more in the presidential campaign, race was also on the minds of many voters here, who said they were wary of a black president even if he might be better for them economically.

“What you hear around here is, would you rather have a black friend in the White House, or a white enemy?” said John Schuster, a Republican from Wheeling, W.Va., who joined several thousand people here for a twilight rally led by Ms. Palin.

“Most guys I know are for McCain, and a lot of it’s because of race,” Mr. Schuster continued. “Obama doesn’t have the right friends — that Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers the terrorist. The thing is, Obama may be better for jobs. But a lot of us don’t trust him.”

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KenH

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I think that most of the voters who are having difficulty overcoming racial prejudice probably voted for George W. Bush in 2004, not John Kerry.
 

carpro

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Race Will have some Impact


Of course it will, just as it will heavily impact and guide the policies of an Obama administration.

Only a fool could have ever thought otherwise.

Obama is a racist, whose entire political history has been about race based politics.

Only a fool could think otherwise.
 

LeBuick

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carpro said:



Of course it will, just as it will heavily impact and guide the policies of an Obama administration.

Only a fool could have ever thought otherwise.

Obama is a racist, whose entire political history has been about race based politics.

Only a fool could think otherwise.

How do you think race will guide Obama policies? Are you suggesting he will be a president only for the blacks?
 

carpro

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LeBuick said:
Are you suggesting he will be a president only for the blacks?

"Only"?

No. But it will always be an over-riding concern. All one has to do is check his history.

He has been all about race his entire political history.
 

KenH

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I love you too, carpro. I understand how difficult this campaign is for you with your candidate doing so poorly. Hang in there, brother. When we meet in Heaven our political disagreements won't matter. :wavey:
 

carpro

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KenH said:
I love you too, carpro. I understand how difficult this campaign is for you with your candidate doing so poorly. Hang in there, brother. When we meet in Heaven our political disagreements won't matter. :wavey:

Gee!

I thought you'd go digging for the truth. You've missed another opportunity to open your eyes.

What a surprise! ;)
 

rbell

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Why is it there's such a huge deal about whites voting for McCain based on race (wrong), yet nothing is said of blacks voting for Obama based on race (wrong)?

Until both are dealt with, this is a silly argument.
 
KenH said:
I think that most of the voters who are having difficulty overcoming racial prejudice probably voted for George W. Bush in 2004, not John Kerry.
Well I disagree with that. Race has never been an issue for the Republicans. It is the Democrats who have stoked the fires of racial hatred for the last 50 years.

Are there some white racists who will vote for McCain just because Obama is black? Sure there are. But for every one of them there will be 10 black racists who vote for Obama for the same reason.

I know there are still racists and sexists in America. I would hope that they cancel each other out but in this election it looks like Obama will benefit a great deal because of his race.
 

LadyEagle

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It is the Democrats who have stoked the fires of racial hatred for the last 50 years.

And if they don't win, there will riots in the streets of America, fueled and stoked by the Democrats. My prediction.
 
LadyEagle said:
And if they don't win, there will riots in the streets of America, fueled and stoked by the Democrats. My prediction.
Yea that was Carvel's prediction too.

So what should we do, vote Obama to preserve the peace?

There are things worth fighting for and the future of our Nation is one of them.

I remember telling an ole boy who wanted to wup me once to give it his best shot. Its been done before and he had a pretty good chance of being successfull, but its been tried more times than accomplished and I guaranteed he was going to know he had been in a fight. That particular individual decided our differences were not quite worth it.

I wish I saw a little more fight in McCain right now. He seems to be continuing down the path of non resistance Bush has followed the last 8 years.
 

just-want-peace

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North Carolina Tentmaker said:
I wish I saw a little more fight in McCain right now. He seems to be continuing down the path of non resistance Bush has followed the last 8 years.
Well stated, m'friend, well stated!

If there had been more fire in Bush's belly, and less concern for "being nice", we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now; IMNSHO of course.

The only, repeat ONLY, consolation is that He is still in charge, and I pray for mercy for our country rather than justice!!!!
 

LeBuick

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LadyEagle said:
And if they don't win, there will riots in the streets of America, fueled and stoked by the Democrats. My prediction.

Are you expecting pure peace if Obama wins?

I don't think the stoking will be from a political party as mush as people who so happen to belong to a party. If McCain can't control a rally then how do you expect Obama to control an entire party? Talk about a double standard.

The article in the OP clearly shows some whites are scared of Obama and if you are a white racist, an Obama presidency will be a bitter pill to swallow. Some won't take it lying down just as some blacks may not take an Obama defeat lying down. To call them the democratic party or even all blacks in America is kind of narrow minded and what this thread is all about. I think we Christians should lead the country in looking past stereo types and seeing there are bad apples in every barrel.
 

LadyEagle

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Yea that was Carvel's prediction too.

So what should we do, vote Obama to preserve the peace?

There are things worth fighting for and the future of our Nation is one of them.

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I wish I saw a little more fight in McCain right now. He seems to be continuing down the path of non resistance Bush has followed the last 8 years.

Well, that's interesting about Carville. See, I really believe the reason Obama got the Dem nomination in spite of all of the support for Hillary was the underlying perhaps unspoken threat by black racists who wanted their "man" in that spot.

Never will I vote for Obama. I do believe the race issue theme (black racists) should be brought out into the open, how the right feels intimidated (like not putting McCain-Palin signs in their yards, etc.) and once it is exposed and the underlying threat of "or else", it should cause people to vote McCain-Palin to show they will not condone intimidation towards white or conservative America. As a black minister pointed out on Huckabee's show the other night, MLK never advocated blackness of skin over character, which is why there are some discerning black voters who will vote for character (McCain-Palin) over blackness (Obama). While McCain is not the ideal candidate for the Republican party, he is a better choice than the alternative, and black voters who are more concerned about morals than skin color will not vote like lemmings based on racial preference. I do believe there are just as many black racists as there are white racists, as evidenced by the teachings of Jeremiah Wright, etc.
 

rbell

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LeBuick said:
If McCain can't control a rally then how do you expect Obama to control an entire party? Talk about a double standard.

Oh, good grief. Haven't you even watched McCain asking folks to be respectful?
 

Palatka51

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rbell said:
Why is it there's such a huge deal about whites voting for McCain based on race (wrong), yet nothing is said of blacks voting for Obama based on race (wrong)?

Until both are dealt with, this is a silly argument.
They hope to appeal to the "White Guilt Factor". A vote against Obama is indicative of a racist soul and not at all about the slaughter of 1000 Americans everyday before they even get a chance to taste the right to the Blessings of Liberty. A vote for Obama will secure abortion on demand for many more generations. That is why I voted against the White Jimmy Carter, the White Walter Mondale, the White Michael Dukakis, the white Bill Clinton, the White Al Gore, the White John Kerry and the Black Barak Hussein Obama! Racism has nothing to do with it!!! And if there is to be any guilt over a vote, just remember the blood on your* hands for your* vote for a "Right to Choice" candidate.

**I am Not indicating that rbell is voting this way but that the "your" in this case is directed at you who are voting for the right to murder candidate.
 
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TomVols

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KenH said:
I think that most of the voters who are having difficulty overcoming racial prejudice probably voted for George W. Bush in 2004, not John Kerry.
I could not disagree more. I have talked to many Dems from many states who say they will not vote for Obama for a variety of reasons, some unfortunately being his heritage, but other biases come in
 

carpro

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North Carolina Tentmaker said:
Yea that was Carvel's prediction too.

So what should we do, vote Obama to preserve the peace?

In Carville's case , it was more of a veiled threat than a mere prediction.
 
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