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Racism and the Church

Bro. Curtis

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So we've established there is cause for both sides to call each other Pharisees. :flower:


The Church should preach against all sin. Have a preacher take sides in a sensationalistic news story from the pulpit, and you do damage.

And THAT goes for both sides.
 
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Darrell C

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It seems there is a trend, as of late, towards committing violence, threatening violence, destroying the livelihood of, and speaking with hate towards white people and especially straight white males. It only increases towards white Christians.
While the majority of Baptist churches take a strong stand, at least in word, against racism, in the United States it has historically referred to racism towards non-whites.
I am curious to find out if your church is addressing this and if so, how. With the rapid growth of this issue, pastors and counselors will soon be faced with more members seeking advice on how to handle the problems they are facing because of their race.
Has anyone seen this yet? Is there a plan on how to advise? Do you think people will come for help, or do too many believe that it's not discrimination when it happens to a white person?

The Fellowship I attend addresses this issue by educating the congregation of what it means to be a Christian. Race has nothing to do with it.

In Christ there is one man created in the Body of Christ. Racism has no place in the hearts of Christians.

The plan should be, as it always has been, to see people saved. Peter learns a great lesson of God in regards to Cornelius, though Peter will need a lesson or two more afterwards. The point the Lord makes is "Call not that which I have cleansed unclean." When anyone professes Christ and at the same time behaves un-Christlike, we have to wonder whether it is a matter of being saved and just ignorant of the commands of Christ, or if they simply seek to associate Christ with satanic doctrine and practice which has been the course of the world from the very beginning.

You are correct in pointing out that Christian whites are a specific target these days. You are correct in pointing out and calling violence for what it is...violence.

This mentality has been used for centuries as justification to fulfill what can in no way be associated with Christian Practice. There is no Scriptural justification for "Christian looting," "Christian violence," "Christian Murder..."

Yet we have those who feel these actions are justified. The irony is those same people will likely be the first to use the Crusades and witch hunts as examples of why "Christianity" is to be targeted.

Again, the only way this/these issue/s will be addressed is doctrinally. It is our duty to try to make it clear that the pseudo Biblical Justification some appeal to in their demonic doctrine and practice is deceptive and damning.

If we can encourage these folks to actually study the Bible, perhaps they might exchange their doctrine and practice for that which Christ commands.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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I don't think pastors even have this on their radar Gina. But as the country moves more toward Whites becoming the minority, I think more and more white people will become more aware of racial prejudice as they are put in the place that the minority is now in.

Most Pastors I have been associated with have a singular goal...to teach the Word of God. It is only through a better understanding of the Word of God that the ignorance and incompatible doctrine and practice of a racist heart will be understood.

In the racist's heart there is no one man in Christ, only one man in race. While a person could be saved and display such an ignorant attitude, we would think that the Spirit of God would compel such an one to His Word that He might accomplish the very work that person was saved to do.

And by the way, are you a Baptist that has a right to be posting in this Board? It seemed you disavowed this in the Politics Board.


God bless.
 

righteousdude2

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And what "conservative agenda and policy" are you against?

Could you be specific?


God bless.

If you notice ... he and zaac are from Atlanta, and they have the exact agenda on the board. I believe one is the alter-ego for the other.

BTW - your question on the other guy disavowing the board is keen insight. I wonder as you, but no answers are coming.:tear:
 

Darrell C

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And most of these "Christians" don't know enough Bible to know that the Pharisees' political and social culture lead them to crucify Jesus. When you start to define Christianity by a political party agenda (and not the other way around), you know there's a problem. That's why some of these churches memberships struggle...to much emphasis on things that have nothing to with being like Christ.

And some do not know the Bible enough to know that the Pharisees did not crucify Christ. Christ came specifically for that task regardless of the political and social climates.

That there is a party (for now) that champions a Christian Worldview and is opposed to the party that champions satanic practices which damn, and that you have a problem with that...speaks volumes.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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If you notice ... he and zaac are from Atlanta, and they have the exact agenda on the board. I believe one is the alter-ego for the other.

BTW - your question on the other guy disavowing the board is keen insight. I wonder as you, but no answers are coming.:tear:

It seemed that it was clear he was not a Baptist. I question as to whether fellowships that advocate unbiblical practices could rightfully be declared Baptist.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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So we've established there is cause for both sides to call each other Pharisees. :flower:


The Church should preach against all sin. Have a preacher take sides in a sensationalistic news story from the pulpit, and you do damage.

And THAT goes for both sides.

That is true. Any time the pulpit is used for anything than the preaching of the Gospel it is disastrous.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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Preach it Brother!:thumbsup:

Yes, please, preach it.

I'd very much like to know what conservative issues both you and you brother are against.

And to make it OP specific...is this what your Church is "advising" or teaching?


God bless.
 

robustheologian

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And what "conservative agenda and policy" are you against?

Could you be specific?

I'd very much like to know what conservative issues both you and you brother are against.

And to make it OP specific...is this what your Church is "advising" or teaching?

I was actually looking forward to answering your questions and engaging you in dialogue until...

That there is a party (for now) that champions a Christian Worldview and is opposed to the party that champions satanic practices which damn, and that you have a problem with that...speaks volumes.

It seemed that it was clear he was not a Baptist. I question as to whether fellowships that advocate unbiblical practices could rightfully be declared Baptist.

Such brash assumptions and judgments speak volumes so I'll just be a Bible-believing Christian and exercise what Matthew 7:6 says.
 

Zaac

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I was actually looking forward to answering your questions and engaging you in dialogue until...

Such brash assumptions and judgments speak volumes so I'll just be a Bible-believing Christian and exercise what Matthew 7:6 says.

Don't waste your time robustheologian. You'll get nothing but page long replies that don't really say anything. :laugh:
 

Yeshua1

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Big amen!!

So is showing to someone caught up in alternative lifestyles that is sin, and that the lord wants to redeem them out of that way of living, and to confront those who are racists towards whites in general showing any thing un christ like?
 

Yeshua1

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I was actually looking forward to answering your questions and engaging you in dialogue until...





Such brash assumptions and judgments speak volumes so I'll just be a Bible-believing Christian and exercise what Matthew 7:6 says.

You mean that preaching as paul did against alternative life styles as being sinful, and that Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation, and that we can help our fellow americans by establishing a healthy climate to foster economic growth instead of big brother government are all evel things, unchrist like?
 

Yeshua1

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Don't waste your time robustheologian. You'll get nothing but page long replies that don't really say anything. :laugh:

unless those that those who are advocating liberal ideals kept sprouting, especially the sinful ones form the so called religous left here in America?

seems that if one does not hold to the "social gospel" before even the real one, some would see that as being a racist!
 

robustheologian

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So is showing to someone caught up in alternative lifestyles that is sin, and that the lord wants to redeem them out of that way of living, and to confront those who are racists towards whites in general showing any thing un christ like?

I'm all for showing someone the sin in homsexuality, the problem is that a certain group of people do their "showing" with insults, torches, lynchmobs, and without love. As far as confronting those who are racists towards whites (i'll entertain that concept for right now), the Bible urges us in Matt. 7:3-5 to take the planks out of our eyes before dealing with someone's sawdust. Until their has been confession (James 5:16) and reconciliation (Matt. 5:23-24), it would be "planky" of white people to confront those who are "racist" towards them.

You mean that preaching as paul did against alternative life styles as being sinful, and that Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation, and that we can help our fellow americans by establishing a healthy climate to foster economic growth instead of big brother government are all evel things, unchrist like?

There's a difference between preaching and bashing. And yes Jesus is most definitely the way, however we live in a country whose constitution supports religious freedom (remember that whole first amendment thing they got there) and a good politician is one who upholds the constitution of the US. As far as "establishing a healthy climate to foster economic growth"...

seems that if one does not hold to the "social gospel" before even the real one, some would see that as being a racist!

Concern for the social welfare of your neighbor is central to being a Christian (1 John 3:17-18: Phil. 2:4; Gal. 6:2; Rom. 12:10; Prov. 21:13) lest we become like the Pharisees (Matt. 15:3-9).
 

Bro. Curtis

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Does voting republican mean you cannot fulfill those roles ?

Does voting democrat automatically mean you do ?
 

robustheologian

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Does voting republican mean you cannot fulfill those roles ?

Does voting democrat automatically mean you do ?

I'm glad you asked. Political affiliation has nothing to do with one's Christianity. That goes both ways. Being republican or democrat does not make one more Christian than the other. You can be Republican and be concerned about the well-being of your neighbor (Black or white) and you can be Democrat and be very much Christian.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I think there's laziness on both sides. People vote and then think the job is done. So much so that they have to say something awful about those who vote a different way.

My prayer life has led me to think I cannot possibly support either party. The republicans seem to think God needs their help. The democrats have obvious corruption problems yet seem to think nobody sees it. And I believe they both are way more interested in power than helping people.

I prefer a hands-on approach. I used to spend way too much time here. I may again someday. But I'm in a real good spot, now.
 
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