Rank the top 20 NFL quarterbacks

Peyton either holds or is on pace to break almost every significant NFL passing mark. That is not questioned. He got the ring to validate his career that the Paris Hilton types at ESPN clammored for. And I don't care if he played for Tennessee, Florida, or the Barbizon school of modeling. Peyton Manning is Peyton Manning.(I didn't like a lot of the guys I rated highly and liked the guys I didn't - so what?) (And I couldnt help but notice: you backed off the homer bit because you can't honestly claim I do nothing but carry Tenn's water since you know better). There's a reason Peyton is included in NFL bump spots alongside Payton, Lombardi, et.al. You honestly think he wouldn't be enshrined in Canton if he retired tomorrow? And tell me this: if you were building a team tomorrow, which QB would you take: Peyton or Brady? Madden said it best: you build certain teams around certain players, but you build franchises around Peyton Manning. Worked for Indy, didn't it?

I'd be interested to see where you would rate Peyton. You didn't argue with Andy having him at #8, I notice. (Actually, where would you rate all 20?) Obviously, we're free to have our opinions, and I could really have some fun with yours, but I'll leave it at this.....

You want to tell me with a straight face that Brady is on pace to be the best QB ever? You don't include Manning in your top 5...the same top five that leaves out the Unitases, Starrs, and well, anyone who didn't take a snap after Reagan's first inaugural. When did Stuart Scott start ghost writing for you :laugh: I know you reacted against Andy praising the era of old and somewhat accurately pointing out the flaws in today's era (which I can understand where he is coming from, though he is coming from left field as usual and do not follow him completely there) but you fail to recognize any of the greats of the game from eras past?

This is one of the hardest things to quantify. QBs can't win without good talent. Eras are different. That's why it's fun to talk about.

 

Olivia Manning's womb should be on this list, I suppose :laugh:

 

If he breaks all of those records, then yes he will be up there at 1 or 2 easy. I have no problem with that. I just think you are putting your list together as if that is all a reality, and it isn't.

I would say he would be anywhere from 5-8 right now. I think he and Brady are pretty even right now, with Brady have the championships and not too shabby stats either, and Peyton having the better stats without as many titles.

I will put together my top 20 and post it tomorrow

I think he has a chance to be when things are done. I could easily see him winning 2 more titles and his stats are only going to get better.

What would it take for him to be considered in your opinion?

I think its a possibility that Peyton and Brady could be 1-2 actually.

Thats not true. I think Unitas and Starr are great QBs as well as Baugh and Graham.

I agree.

 

While my post was in jest, I've come to believe that it might have some merit. You do not have a great QB without a good to great team around him. Archie and Olivia, my oh my what a team. :type:

 

Ah, I didn't realize you were joking. You should add a smiley to a post like, and then I won't be scratching my head wondering if you've lost your mind. :wavey:

On 2nd thought, please elaborate. I don't see what being a father to 2 Super Bowl MVPs has to do with being the greatest QB ever.

 

What about Y.A. Tittle? He should have been on the list, perhaps instead of Namath.

 

Since I haven't put my own list out here yet, here it is. My criteria for the choices is, if I had 1 game to win and could pick 1 QB to win it, who would I pick?

1. Montana
2. Unitas
3. Elway
4. Favre
5. Graham
6. Aikman
7. Bradshaw
8. Staubach
9. Starr
10. Young
11. Baugh
12. Brady
13. Manning
14. Simms
15. Griese
16. Fouts
17. Marino
18. Tarkenton
19. Moon
20. Namath

Namath is the most overrated QB in history. I would take YA Tittle, Ken Anderson, Ken Stabler, Jim Plunkett or even Jim McMahon before I'd take Namath.

 

OK Tom, here is my list, chew it up...

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Marino
4. Favre
5. Brady
6. Unitas
7. Manning
8. Starr
9. Bradshaw
10. Staubach
11. Baugh
12. Tarkenton
13. Graham
14. Aikman
15. Fouts
16. Young
17. Griese
18. Namath
19. Simms
20. Moon

The bottom 3, Namath, Simms and Moon could easily be replaced by Tittle, and some of the other names mentioned. I am not sure any of the 3 belong in the top 20.

 

Which Manning??

Ed

 

Which Manning? The one who won a Super Bowl? Or the one who won a Super Bowl? Or Pops?

Ed

 

I tend to agree.

More to come....

 

I find it curious that you consider Brady to be so good. No question he's a great QB. But better than Terry, Starr, Unitas, Baugh, Tittle? Sorry, I just don't buy it. If the number of Super Bowl rings is so important, where's Mark Rypien on these lists? Get my drift?

My opinion of Brady is that he is a great QB but not one of the all-time greats. I look at more than just rings. His numbers are good but there are QBs that are better. I think Manning is a better game manager and passer. Put the right people around Brady and he's great. Manning is great, period, IMHO.

I've always wondered what Montana would've done with less talent. He had quite the cache.

Sorry, out of time for now....

 

Namath was 3-0 against UT. So what? Namath is a Bammer, and while that's a horrible sin :smilewinkgrin: it's not why I (and I suppose CCROB) believe he is overrated. Namath's stats are not as impressive as other QBs. I merely contend that if Namath had not worn pantyhose, mink coats, and ran his mouth, he'd be considered good or very good, and not some great QB. No question the upset in SB III was a big one. But still, look at his numbers. Is Namath really one of the ten or fifteen best? Twenty best? I think not.

 

Mine was Peyton and I'd guess that Peyton was PastorSBC's choice as well. I'll be very interested to see how Eli plays in the regular season next year after having so much success in the playoffs.

Agree completely.

 

You do know that some people just seem to be able to preform better in a playoff situation. Eli may just be this type of player. Others like Marino were a great regular season QB but when it came to the playoffs they rarely get past the first game.

 

However if you give Marino a viable running back who knows how many championships he leads his team to.

 

Or a better defense.

 

Yes, I realize that. However, until these playoffs, Eli hadn't distinguished himself in either the regular season or the postseason.