Dave Bussard
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Larry> At this point, I do not mean to be mean or insenstive,
NO offense taken.
Larry>...You would be publishing your work.
It is published. www.whowillbeleftbehindandwhen.com
Larry>Indeed I would be interested in reading it to see you answer the questions.
It's only $10 plus shipping!
Larry>As for the DOL, it begins just after the rapture, with the beginning of the tribulation period. This much is clear from Scripture. It is a wonder that any seriously doubt it.
Did you not read Joel 2:31?
The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood BEFORE the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD (Joel 2:31).
Now where is this sign located in Matthew 24 and Revelation?
Larry>It is interesting Dave that you bring up 2 Thessalonians. Perhaps you can explain to us why the Thessalonians were unsettled to believe that they were in the DOL. If they were posttribulationists, as you are, woulnd't they have been expecting it??
How can you rely on what they THOUGHT? Some of them actually thought they were in the DOL! They were cluless. Let's not rely on what clueless people thought to come up with our doctrines.
And I am not post-trib, but pre-wrath. I believe as you do that we will not enter the DOL. And by the way, there are posties that do not think we will go throught he DOL also.
Larry>The reality is that only reason they would be troubled is if they thought they were going to be raptured before it began. Being told that they were going through the DOL (by a false teacher) was a contradiction of what Paul had taught, just as posttribulationism is.
Where did Paul teach the pre-trib rapture?
Larry>This shows the pretrib teaching is clearly compatible with Scripture, contrary to the claim of "nonsense."
Nonsense? It sounds like you are ready to debate. And also, many have disproved the pre-trib position but for some reason many just don't want to accept it.
[ December 14, 2002, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Dave Bussard ]
NO offense taken.
Larry>...You would be publishing your work.
It is published. www.whowillbeleftbehindandwhen.com
Larry>Indeed I would be interested in reading it to see you answer the questions.
It's only $10 plus shipping!
Larry>As for the DOL, it begins just after the rapture, with the beginning of the tribulation period. This much is clear from Scripture. It is a wonder that any seriously doubt it.
Did you not read Joel 2:31?
The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood BEFORE the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD (Joel 2:31).
Now where is this sign located in Matthew 24 and Revelation?
Larry>It is interesting Dave that you bring up 2 Thessalonians. Perhaps you can explain to us why the Thessalonians were unsettled to believe that they were in the DOL. If they were posttribulationists, as you are, woulnd't they have been expecting it??
How can you rely on what they THOUGHT? Some of them actually thought they were in the DOL! They were cluless. Let's not rely on what clueless people thought to come up with our doctrines.
And I am not post-trib, but pre-wrath. I believe as you do that we will not enter the DOL. And by the way, there are posties that do not think we will go throught he DOL also.
Larry>The reality is that only reason they would be troubled is if they thought they were going to be raptured before it began. Being told that they were going through the DOL (by a false teacher) was a contradiction of what Paul had taught, just as posttribulationism is.
Where did Paul teach the pre-trib rapture?
Larry>This shows the pretrib teaching is clearly compatible with Scripture, contrary to the claim of "nonsense."
Nonsense? It sounds like you are ready to debate. And also, many have disproved the pre-trib position but for some reason many just don't want to accept it.
[ December 14, 2002, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Dave Bussard ]