Re-thinking torture

Such brutality is NOT the realm of animals, it is the realm of human beings brutalised. Torture is OFFENSIVE to our humanity, let us never condone it.

 

I find it interesting that these discussions all seem to move toward the "lowest common demoninator." We seem to have lost the idea of holding ourselves to a higher standard than others. In other words we take the easy way out and be like everyone else.

Could we not use the same argument for universalism?

Should we not aspire to be better and hold to a higher standard? Does this not actually make us stronger? Or does might truly equal right?

 

I assume you are talking about the video that Nick Berg was beheaded in? I'm no medical doctor FTR but one would think that a person having their head sawed off while they were still alive would squirt blood all over the place arteries do that ya know, I am the greatgrandson of a profesional butcher however that used the old fashoined sticking knife I still have it in my knife collection. Believe me when I tell you when a hog is stuck in the jugular he bleeds like a well like a stuck hog. Nick Berg was a human being but I would fully expect to see blood gushing from the wound, he didn't didn't bleed at all if my memory of the video is any good. The video in other words was a fake a psyop. Just like the fat Bin Laden video where he admits to 911. The FBI certianly would have indicted him for that crime if they had the hard evidence which they claim they do not have.

Think about it. We're waging wars and fueling resentment against a whole race/religion and debating whether or not to torture "these animals" based mostly on faked evidence and pumped up pentagon/MSM propaganda. Not unlike another historic regime that met it's demise in a most violent fashion.

 

Amen, Brother Genesis12 -- Preach it! :thumbs:

 

Poncho, there are plenty of videos of beheadings and other tortures these muslims do and they are not psyops - they are recruiting films for their groups and murders they boast about from all different nations where they are in jihad. Send me a PM and I'll send you some links so you can see for yourself. They are too graphic to post on this board.

 

Nice idealistic thought, but treating POWs according to Geneva Convention protocols has never ensured like treatment of our POWs.

Ever since the early days of the war in Iraq, our ground combat forces have been told by their small unit commanders not to be captured alive. They've always known they would be tortured, beaten and likely killed by the enemy. They knew that how we treated our prisoners would have no impact on how they would be treated.

 

The formal definition of "brutalize" is "to make brutal"; only lately it has come to mean "to be treated brutally".

Why it it worse to be decapitated than to be burned to death by firebombing?