Really, REALLY struggling with calvinism

Luke, chapter 10

"42": But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

Hebrews, chapter 2
"9": But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

1 Timothy, chapter 2
"1": I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

"2": For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

"3": For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

"4": Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

"5": For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

"6": Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time

2 Peter, chapter 2
1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2: And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3: And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Praise God it was just not for you all.

 

I idea of "freewill" is the oldest lie in the universe, literally. Satan told Eve she would "be like God", knowing good and evil. The lie was that she could choose the good over the evil. That was before the fall, continued after the fall, and it is still popular today. However, all this time has not changed the fact that it is a lie.
peace to youraise:

 

Isaiah, chapter 1
"16": Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

"17": Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

"18": Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

"19": If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:


Romans, chapter 6

"16": Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

 

And they were not willing and they were not obedient and God allowed the nation to be destroyed.

peace to youraise:

 

Oh, but if they had of been

 

Now you're getting it Bob. HE made us to believe.

 

I am saved by God's Grace...nothing more...nothing less. I am not deserving, nor is anyone else.raise:
I have been baptized out of obediance. I followed Christ's example that he left for us.
I was able to come to the Father because of Christ and what he did for all of us on the cross.

 

There would have been no need for Jesus to die on the cross.

peace to youraise:

 

He made us so we could believe or reject Him when He made him subject to vanity but not willingly but by reason of Him who subjected the same in Hope. (He gave him a choice)

 

Why, they didn't have eternal life it still took the blood of Christ if I read the Scriptures right.

 

And everyone chose rebellion, everyone rejected Him.

peace to youraise:

 

Did you have to believe Lgpruitt?

 

Yea, but the Hope was still there. So you are saying man had a choice?

 

They didn't have eternal life because they were disobedient. They needed Christ because the blood of goats and bulls cannot take away the sins of men.

peace to youraise:

 

Of course man has the choice, he just doesn't have "freewill" only "human will" which is marred my sin. And they are required by God to choose Him, and are punished because they all chose according to their sinful natures to reject God and His Christ.

peace to youraise:

 

Thought you said that Jesus would not of had to die? The Law never could give eternal life. You agree to that don't you?

That is no choice. A choice means you can choose between one thing or the other.

 

I said if mankind would have been obedient, then Jesus would not have had to die.

The choice was between being obedient to God and rebellion. Everyone has chosen rebellion. That was their choice, according to their "human will" which is marred by sin. They are not capable of choosing the "good", as Satan told Eve she would be able to, because Satan lied and mankind believed the lie. All choose rebellion against God. All choose sin and separation from God.

peace to youraise:

 

Are you saying a man can choose to be obedient?

 

I am saying all men made the choice to be disobedient.

peace to youraise:

 

You can't answer can you. What you said is that;

That would be a choice but you then in next post take away the choice of being obedient so that leaves you with "no choice". You can't say it is a choice when half of the equation is gone.