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Reciting John 3:16 gets customers a discount at a Texas service station

righteousdude2

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Too Bad it's Too Far for Me to Drive...

...that is a great price for an oil change, but living in California makes it cost preventative. :laugh:
 

David Lamb

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Then I would memorize the text, and get my discount. Probably thank them, on my way out.
Even if the Koran verse to be recited was one like Sura 5.78, which states that Christ was no more than an apostle, or Sura 4.157, which says that Jesus did not die on the cross?
 

Magnetic Poles

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If the owner wants to charge a black person double...let him. Not serve Muslims? Let him. Private business shouldn't be forced to do business with anyone else. You liberals are all for people's rights....until they own a business.

Folks like this is why the Civil Rights Act was needed. We can see that when they say they want to take the country back, what they mean is take it back to 1930.

Here is the language that makes this illegal:

TITLE II--INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST DISCRIMINATION IN PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.
 
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Bro. Curtis

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Even if the Koran verse to be recited was one like Sura 5.78, which states that Christ was no more than an apostle, or Sura 4.157, which says that Jesus did not die on the cross?


I wouldn't say it like that. I would quote it. "The Koran states in Sura so & so...."

I just don't think this is an issue to get all judgemental about.
 

Salty

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Folks like this is why the Civil Rights Act was needed. We can see that when they say they want to take the country back, what they mean is take it back to 1930.

Here is the language that makes this illegal:

TITLE II--INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST DISCRIMINATION IN PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

So its okay to discriminate on any other basis then?
 

Salty

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Under this law, yes. However, others apply (e.g. Fair Housing Act, Americans With Disabilities Act, Age discrimination in Employment Act, etc.).

And where does it all end?
In addition some of these laws go way beyond reason. For example, federal law prohibits me from asking a handicap customer what his disability is - which could be helpful in giving proper assistance. If I were to ask, I could be fired!

In addition many people abuse the system,...
 

Alcott

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Just a few weeks ago this 'public accomodation' angle was put before me unexpectedly when I went with our informal group that goes to eat on Sunday after church. 2 or 3 in the group mentioned something about it and got out their church bulletins, and I quickly concluded there was discount for showing it-- which I didn't know before I went in the place (which must, btw, have only recently started this). To be honest, I didn't like it that that was a place that still did that; not because I didn't know it before, but I really don't think I should be entitled to a discount just by showing a church bulletin. I could have just grabbed one and walked away and not attended the service. It's even possible somebody could type up a 'fake' one. But none of that should come before the fair and equal facet here. Not all churches meet on Sundays and not all churches even have bulletins. I have no idea whether the place will accept them from other days within the past week, whether they will accept them from any religion, including a "church of freethought," an agnostic/atheist organized meeting. If they accept all these, I'm not sure it's necessarily a civil rights violation against those who have none, because they could be assumed to accomodate every belief, and it's just whether you acquired a document. That seems no different than other discounts I have known, such as a late Friday night discount for showing your ticket stub to the high school football game.

But if it has, as I understand, been ruled to violate the civil rights act by showing favoritism to a customer with a church bulletin, then does that mean a 'place of public accomodation' cannot sponsor a page in the newspaper with information about the local churches, as is the case in my town? Wouldn' that indicate this accomodation business prefers churchgoers to nonchurchgoers? If so, that could be used in a case against them to show 'intent' of its preference/discrimination. Then what about retailers putting up Christmas decor but not Hannukah or Ramadan stuff? What about kosher delicatessans?-- does they show a preference, therefore discrimination in favor of, customers who have a religious principle of a kosher diet? If a Mormon contractor will work to contruct Mormon facitilites, is there a violation if her refuses to consider bidding on a Baptist church project? Could a business be sued for supporting a Boy Scout troop, since BSA does not allow atheists or homosexuals to be leaders?
 

preacher4truth

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Just a few weeks ago this 'public accomodation' angle was put before me unexpectedly when I went with our informal group that goes to eat on Sunday after church. 2 or 3 in the group mentioned something about it and got out their church bulletins, and I quickly concluded there was discount for showing it-- which I didn't know before I went in the place (which must, btw, have only recently started this). To be honest, I didn't like it that that was a place that still did that; not because I didn't know it before, but I really don't think I should be entitled to a discount just by showing a church bulletin. I could have just grabbed one and walked away and not attended the service. It's even possible somebody could type up a 'fake' one. But none of that should come before the fair and equal facet here. Not all churches meet on Sundays and not all churches even have bulletins. I have no idea whether the place will accept them from other days within the past week, whether they will accept them from any religion, including a "church of freethought," an agnostic/atheist organized meeting. If they accept all these, I'm not sure it's necessarily a civil rights violation against those who have none, because they could be assumed to accomodate every belief, and it's just whether you acquired a document. That seems no different than other discounts I have known, such as a late Friday night discount for showing your ticket stub to the high school football game.

But if it has, as I understand, been ruled to violate the civil rights act by showing favoritism to a customer with a church bulletin, then does that mean a 'place of public accomodation' cannot sponsor a page in the newspaper with information about the local churches, as is the case in my town? Wouldn' that indicate this accomodation business prefers churchgoers to nonchurchgoers? If so, that could be used in a case against them to show 'intent' of its preference/discrimination. Then what about retailers putting up Christmas decor but not Hannukah or Ramadan stuff? What about kosher delicatessans?-- does they show a preference, therefore discrimination in favor of, customers who have a religious principle of a kosher diet? If a Mormon contractor will work to contruct Mormon facitilites, is there a violation if her refuses to consider bidding on a Baptist church project? Could a business be sued for supporting a Boy Scout troop, since BSA does not allow atheists or homosexuals to be leaders?

This is the problem with freedom and fairness within our nation. Whining.

Let's apply your same beef with this, and the same principles to marriage and see what happens. As in who can, and who cannot be married.

The problem is we think we have rights, and Christians demand their rights, and so do the other crowds.

In the process we give up convictions in doing so for a flag? Really?

"That's not fair!" is the cry I heard on the elementary playground. When will we graduate and stand for truth over fairness and freedom? Ever?
 

David Lamb

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I wouldn't say it like that. I would quote it. "The Koran states in Sura so & so...."

I just don't think this is an issue to get all judgemental about.
I wasn't being judgmental, Bro. Curtis - at least, not intentionally - so sorry if my words came across that way.

More generally, and not particularly in response to Bro. Curtis, it's neither discrimination nor "civil rights" that causes me to be against the idea. (Nearly half the posts on this thread seem to be about discrimination and/or civil rights).

My objection to the practice of giving discounts for reciting a verse from the bible is that, in my opinion, it is a wrong use of God's Word.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I wasn't being judgmental, Bro. Curtis - at least, not intentionally - so sorry if my words came across that way.

More generally, and not particularly in response to Bro. Curtis, it's neither discrimination nor "civil rights" that causes me to be against the idea. (Nearly half the posts on this thread seem to be about discrimination and/or civil rights).

My objection to the practice of giving discounts for reciting a verse from the bible is that, in my opinion, it is a wrong use of God's Word.

I wasn't directing my comment to you.

And perhaps my comment was wrong-headed. I can't imagine me EVER picking up a filthy koran, never mind reading it.

Perhaps a better way would be to charge the customer full price, and donate the bible-verse-discount to missions ?
 
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