savedbymercy
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I have answered it already, and I am not answering it again,so you may as well quit asking me.
I have answered it already, and I am not answering it again,so you may as well quit asking me.
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Reconciled while enemies 2
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savedbymercy
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Condemned already !
Jn 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
For anyone to say that the Elect of God are born in a condemned state of sin, they flat out reject, disregard the biblical Truth of Non Imputation 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Rom 4:8
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Rom 8:33
33 Who shall lay or impute any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
This question by Paul here is to emphasis Non Imputation !
Now we are no way denying that the Elect are born sinners by nature, the worst kind 1 Cor 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Yes totally depraved, Enemies to God in their Minds by wicked works Col 1:21
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Even children of wrath by nature as others Eph 2:3, yes being quite deserving of God's Eternal Wrath, Now we deem this all True of the Elect by Nature, but we deny as does the scripture, that God charged any of that to their account, He laid not one sin legally to their charge, that they are all born legally reconciled and Justified from all sin, By the Death of Christ for them alone Rom 5:9-10, yes even while they are in a state of nature and unbelief, while on the other hand, there fellow sinners who are non elect, and whom Christ did not die for, are born and will ever remain condemned before God and under His Judicial Wrath Rom 1:18 without hope of Salvation ! That is who Jesus means in Jn 3:18, 36
None whom Christ died for or came to save were condemned Jn 3:17
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world[of the elect]; but that the world[of the elect] through him might be saved.
They can be saved by Him because they are not condemned by God for any sin !
Jn 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
For anyone to say that the Elect of God are born in a condemned state of sin, they flat out reject, disregard the biblical Truth of Non Imputation 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Rom 4:8
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Rom 8:33
33 Who shall lay or impute any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
This question by Paul here is to emphasis Non Imputation !
Now we are no way denying that the Elect are born sinners by nature, the worst kind 1 Cor 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Yes totally depraved, Enemies to God in their Minds by wicked works Col 1:21
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Even children of wrath by nature as others Eph 2:3, yes being quite deserving of God's Eternal Wrath, Now we deem this all True of the Elect by Nature, but we deny as does the scripture, that God charged any of that to their account, He laid not one sin legally to their charge, that they are all born legally reconciled and Justified from all sin, By the Death of Christ for them alone Rom 5:9-10, yes even while they are in a state of nature and unbelief, while on the other hand, there fellow sinners who are non elect, and whom Christ did not die for, are born and will ever remain condemned before God and under His Judicial Wrath Rom 1:18 without hope of Salvation ! That is who Jesus means in Jn 3:18, 36
None whom Christ died for or came to save were condemned Jn 3:17
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world[of the elect]; but that the world[of the elect] through him might be saved.
They can be saved by Him because they are not condemned by God for any sin !
savedbymercy
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Legally Reconciled first !
All those that Christ died for are legally, but not experimentally reconciled to God in Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Yes here in Rom 5:10a Paul is only speaking of Reconciliation legally before God, no sin has been imputed to our charge. Even when those Christ died for are yet enemies and unbelievers they have been reconciled to God; However he does goes on to speak on their experimental Reconciliation [by His Death and Life] as a sure event to transpire in their life, this he does when he states " Much more, being Reconciled [while enemies] we SHALL be saved by His Life" Now this phrase 'shall be saved by His Life" means their experimental reconciliation is certain, which is what he means here Col 1:21-22
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Now in the Rom 5:10a passage Paul teaches that all for whom Christ died are reconciled to God legally, even while experimentally they were being enemies; and because of that reconciliation legally, they shall be saved from being enemies, which is what Paul stated to the believing Colossians here in Col 1:21, where Paul states they were once [past tense] enemies. But remember, even while being enemies in their mind, they had legally still been Reconciled to God by Christ's Death, but now they have been experimentally Reconciled.
So Paul Teaches by the Death of Christ a Twofold Reconciliation effected by Christ's Death, One which is solely legal, it being effected even while they are being enemies Rom 5:10a; and #2 One that is effected that saves them experimentally out of being enemies in their minds Col 1:21, and Both are effected by the Death of Christ Col 1:22
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
22 In the body of his flesh through[because of His] death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Now understand this also, This also confirms that its Through Christ's Death as the Meritorious cause it effects both legal and experimental Reconciliations to God, even as it is called 'being saved by His Life" in Rom 5:10b !
So for anyone to say that Christ's Death alone, in and of itself does not save one experimentally, they are LIARS and ANTICHRIST !! For anyone to tamper with the Saving Efficacy of the Meritorious Death of Christ, His Blood and Cross, they are a Child of the Devil,m who perverts the Right ways of the Lord Acts 13:10
10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
The challenge is out for anyone to prove anything, any one point not true in this post, that sets forth truthfully the Gospel of Reconciliation by the Blood of Christ !
We do believe and preach that every Justified and or Reconciled sinner before God, and that solely premised upon His Death and or Blood as Per Rom 5:9-10, that sometime in their sinful physical lifetime that they shall receive a actual Spiritual Application of Justification and their Imputed Righteousness whereby they will receive a knowledge of it by Faith !
savedbymercy
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More on reconciliation !
One who has been legally reconciled to God by the Blood of Christ or to say by His Death Rom 5:10, even while being enemies and unbelievers, this reconciliation is also their Justification before God, simply because reconciliation legally denotes the non imputation of their sins unto them 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
So , legal reconciliation and non imputation of sin go hand and hand, and that can be the case only if God does not reckon them to be lawbreakers, because of the Blood of Christ shed for them alone, for Christ's sake alone, God hath accepted their persons as Righteous, not for anything in them by Nature, nor wrought in them by New Birth or the Spirit, but while they are being enemies by nature, and not for anything done by them , but for Christ's Sake alone ! It is not because of any Gospel Obedience such as repenting and believing, but because also of imputing the Righteousness and Obedience of Christ unto them, and this also while they themselves are being enemies by nature as well as being ignorant of their own Justification, and Reconciliation to God, solely by the Death of Christ !
One who has been legally reconciled to God by the Blood of Christ or to say by His Death Rom 5:10, even while being enemies and unbelievers, this reconciliation is also their Justification before God, simply because reconciliation legally denotes the non imputation of their sins unto them 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
So , legal reconciliation and non imputation of sin go hand and hand, and that can be the case only if God does not reckon them to be lawbreakers, because of the Blood of Christ shed for them alone, for Christ's sake alone, God hath accepted their persons as Righteous, not for anything in them by Nature, nor wrought in them by New Birth or the Spirit, but while they are being enemies by nature, and not for anything done by them , but for Christ's Sake alone ! It is not because of any Gospel Obedience such as repenting and believing, but because also of imputing the Righteousness and Obedience of Christ unto them, and this also while they themselves are being enemies by nature as well as being ignorant of their own Justification, and Reconciliation to God, solely by the Death of Christ !