Recount!

[HankD]

All the talk is just that. Talk. Clinton got 232 Electoral Votes. Trump got 306. That is a difference of 74 Electoral votes. Clinton would have to pick up 38 Electoral votes to win. Michigan is one of the states in which Stein is trying to force a recount. If Trump's win is overturned (not likely - he won by over 10,000 votes, much higher than the 537 vote win by George W. Bush in Florida in 2000) Clinton would only get an additional 16 Electoral votes bringing her total to 248, still 22 votes short of the magic 270. In order to win she would have to overturn Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania to get enough votes to win the Electoral vote. Not a chance of overturning all three.

As to Clinton winning the popular vote, her total is irrelevant. Even if her number of votes coming from late counts in California is 10 million, it makes no difference as she already has all of California's Electoral votes. There are no more to be had.

As to the Electoral College itself, the idea of the Electoral voters abandoning the candidate and "voting their conscience" is nonsense. Electoral voters are elected by their party. If the state goes Democrat the Democrat Electoral voters cast their ballots on December 19. If the state goes Republican the Republican Electoral voters cast their ballots. These people are party functionaries and their entire job is to put their guy in office. They will vote for their guy.

Trump is in. The rest is just media hype.

Yes, after the crash and burn of Jill's scare tactic that is the next act of hysteria, try to beg, borrow or steal electoral votes from Trump and give them to Hillary on December 19th.

Another ridiculous pipe dream which everyone can see through.
What amazes me is that they even make these incredulous statements.

HankD

 

[Salty]

Surprising how many people have no ideal about the workings ofthe EC.
In fact one person told me they thought that the EC had something to do with the University of Virginia!

 

[HankD]

Surprising how many people have no ideal about the workings of
the EC.
In fact one person told me they thought that the EC had something to do with the University of Virginia!

Right, you must have a 3.0 GPA from the electoral college to be elected president.

HankD

 

[Alcott]

Surprising how many people have no ideal about the workings ofthe EC.
In fact one person told me they thought that the EC had something to do with the University of Virginia!

How could they be that dumb? Most people know the Electoral College is a school where they train electricians and give tests only by word of mouth.

 

[HankD]

So, IMO (and its a very strong opinion) Soros and the Clinton machine are behind the funding of the recount.

The marxist press is calling it miraculous that Stein has come up with the multi million dollars overnight (funny how they now believe in miracles). It might be good to check any outgoing cash from the Clinton Foundation for the source of the miracle.

What I can't figure out is why is this being done. The only thing I can come up with is that phony excuse Stein made if the money is not all spent- in summary it appears she will keep what's left over:

"If we raise more than what's needed, the surplus will also go toward election integrity efforts and to promote voting system reform."

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/11/...a-recount-even-though-she-surpassed/21614354/

Hmm, what is "election integrity efforts" and "voting system reform"?

In any case and no matter the outcome Trump should start a private investigation just to show who is/was really behind the recount and the fraud Stein may have committed. Perhaps it is the Clinton machine reward.

HankD

 

[Salty]

Does JIll Stein really think that she would actually win any EC's!

Does Hillary think we are that dumb that we would not suspect her of being behind the recount.

 

[HankD]

Does JIll Stein really think that she would actually win any EC's!

Does Hillary think we are that dumb that we would not suspect her of being behind the recount.

That's what is so mystifying.

Maybe, they want to live in Pollyannaville forever claiming they won the election, tried to fix it but were defrauded - Deja vu Al Gore.

HankD

 

[InTheLight]

Stein has raised more money for the recount effort than she raised for her presidential campaign.

Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo

 

[Squire Robertsson]

I don't think this fundraising will line Stine's own pockets. But, I think it will give the Greens a nice boost in their war fund.

 

[TCassidy]

In order to affect the election the recounts would have to give Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania to Clinton. And that just can't happen.

Even if Stein manages to tip the balance so neither Clinton nor Trump has 270 Electoral votes (the balance going to a 3rd party - even more unlikely than Clinton winning all three states on recounts) all that would do is throw the election into the House of Representatives, which is controlled by Republicans.

It's Trump. They should get over it and get on with their lives.

 

[HankD]

Chuck Todd - Something smells.

'I don’t understand the political play. I don’t really understand why Jill Stein is doing it at this point. I don’t really understand what the Clinton campaign is doing'
New York Times correspondent Helene Cooper recalled 2000 and wondered why Stein would pursue recounts in three separate states.
Todd then suggested, 'Somebody talked Jill Stein into this… That’s what it smells like.'

Chuck Todd Meet The Press, November 27, 2017

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chuck-to...ls-like-somebody-talked-jill-stein-into-this/

Wonder who that somebody might be?

IMO the RNC should be there at the recount as well or magically all three states could be reversed in favor of the Soros/Clinton Foundation - oops I mean Hillary.

Stein has also said that any unspent funds would be used for election integrity efforts and to promote voting system reform - FRAUD ALERT?

Those critical of the effort are quick to point out that in the fundraising drive, Stein outright admits that she cannot guarantee recounts will actually happen. Stein also doesn’t say what any money that isn’t used for the recount will actually go to, beyond a general pledge that 'the surplus will also go toward election integrity efforts and to promote voting system reform.'

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ldn_t_contribute_to_jill_stein_s_recount.html

"It's morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money" W.C. Fields

http://quotes.lifehack.org/quote/w-c-fields/its-morally-wrong-to-allow-a-sucker/

HankD

 

[Salty]

I'm sure State laws will require representation from both parties.

 

[HankD]

I'm sure State laws will require representation from both parties.

I hope they are vetted.

HankD

 

[Salty]

From the office of the Sec of State for Texas.

I would assume all States/Commonwealths have similar policies:

1. Only persons specifically permitted to attend by law may be in the room where the recount is taking place or in a hallway within 30 feet of the entrance to the room. [Sec. 213.015]. Those persons are:
   1. The recount chair and committee members. [Sec. 213.002].
   2. The candidates and their representatives.
      (Sample Form following this outline.)
      1. Each candidate may have two representatives if there is just one counting team or representatives in a number equal to the number of counting teams if there is more than one counting team. The representatives must present certificates of appointment, and they have the same rights, duties, and privileges of election day poll watchers; however, the Code did not specify the same eligibility requirements. [See, Sec. 213.013(f) for certificate requirements].
      2. Photocopying by a Representative-On request of a person entitled to appoint representatives to serve at the recount, the recount committee chair must permit the person to photocopy, under the chair's supervision, any ballot challenged by the person or by the person's representative. The person must pay a reasonable charge for making the copies, and if no copying equipment is available, may supply the equipment at his or her own expense. [Sec. 213.013(i)].
   3. The custodian of the voted ballots. [Sec. 213.001(c)].
   4. The recount supervisor. [Sec. 213.002].
   5. Any state or federal inspectors.

 

[Revmitchell]

Does JIll Stein really think that she would actually win any EC's!

Does Hillary think we are that dumb that we would not suspect her of being behind the recount.

No, that is the feigned purpose but not the real issue. She is fund raising at break neck speed and racking in the bucks.

 

[HankD]

No, that is the feigned purpose but not the real issue. She is fund raising at break neck speed and racking in the bucks.

Stein also doesn’t say what any money that isn’t used for the recount will actually go to, beyond a general pledge that "the surplus will also go toward election integrity efforts and to promote voting system reform."

In other words she (Stein) is going to keep it to use as she sees fit for certain nebulous "efforts" and "reform"

It appears that she will net 2-3 million or more for herself.

See post #31.

HankD

 

[JPPT1974]

Stein says she would had raised up to $2M but has surpassed over up to $6M so far it seems. By those that are with her.

 

[HankD]

Stein says she would had raised up to $2M but has surpassed over up to $6M so far it seems. By those that are with her.

Thank you Clinton Foundation!?

HankD

 

[HankD]

Pennsylvania recount is unlikely.

The filing deadline is today and over 27,000 signed and certified affidavits from PA voters are required for a state wide recount.

Stein claims to currently have 1500.

Only other recourse : file a law suit of voter fraud with evidence.

Problem: Consultants they hired say there is no evidence of fraud.

Also, Obama is standing behind the results which indicate that Trump won the election, saying the election was “free and fair from a cyber security perspective.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...request-recount-pennsylvania-must-take-court/

In the meantime Stein has bilked 6 million from #NEVERTRUMPers.
My opinion of course that she has designs to "take me money y run Venezuela"

Maybe fake news but who knows: Trump has now flopped on his decision to not prosecute Hillary and renewed his promise to "lock her up".

Also he will be filing his own lawsuits AFTER the inauguration to uncover the alleged and suspected DNC voter fraud in CA (specifically) of dead and illegal people voting in the State of CA against Soros/Clinton alleged voter fraud conspiracy as part of his own voter reform package.

Thank you Jill for ticking off President elect Trump.
You, Soros/Clinton maybe should "lawyer up".


HankD

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I don't think this fundraising will line Stine's own pockets. But, I think it will give the Greens a nice boost in their war fund.

I think the democrats are taking a big turn left, and she might just turn it over to them....