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Redeems those He died for from the Prison of Unbelief !

Brightfame52

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According to your words you must be a universalist BF.
Everyone isnt forgiven, but only the elect. The Many when Jesus shed His Blood for them, it gave them forgiveness of sins Matt 26 28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission/forgiveness of sins.

Peter preached Jesus gives forgiveness of sins and repentance to Israel which is the elect Acts 5 31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Everyone isnt forgiven, but only the elect. The Many when Jesus shed His Blood for them, it gave them forgiveness of sins Matt 26 28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission/forgiveness of sins.

Peter preached Jesus gives forgiveness of sins and repentance to Israel which is the elect Acts 5 31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

BF you read into those texts what you need to find to support your flawed religion and what proves that you do not trust the word of God is that you continue to deny clear scripture.

You are as lost as a ball in tall grass.
 

Psalty

Member
BF you read into those texts what you need to find to support your flawed religion and what proves that you do not trust the word of God is that you continue to deny clear scripture.

You are as lost as a ball in tall grass.
He’s got a theological system down well enough that he adds in all sorts of words that arent there to make it so that God determines everything.

I cant imagine reading the bible like that!

Could you imagine a Calvinist Bible that put all their calvinist presuppositions into the text with italics like the NASB does for words they use that arent present in the greek? Calvinist bibles would be double the size of normal bibles, because they have so many underlying words that they need to connect to verses to make them be Calvinist verses!
 

Ascetic X

Active Member
He’s got a theological system down well enough that he adds in all sorts of words that arent there to make it so that God determines everything.

I cant imagine reading the bible like that!

Could you imagine a Calvinist Bible that put all their calvinist presuppositions into the text with italics like the NASB does for words they use that arent present in the greek? Calvinist bibles would be double the size of normal bibles, because they have so many underlying words that they need to connect to verses to make them be Calvinist verses!
Well stated. Bible says Jesus died for everybody, so that anyone may accept the gift of eternal life through faith, by grace. I do not believe faith is a work, it is a freely chosen response to the gospel message.

The elect are the only ones who benefit from Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, but that sacrifice was for all humanity.
 

Silverhair

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You can quote the word of God, and then reject the truth, thats common on these venues

BF we see you do it all the time.

My post # 60

Who did Christ dies for BF

Joh_3:17 the world
Heb_2:9 every man
1Jn_2:2 the whole world
1Ti_2:5-6 for all
1Ti_4:10 all men
Rom_5:6 the ungodly
Rom_5:8 sinners
2Co_5:14-15 for all
Rom 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,


BF your post # 61
"Everyone isnt forgiven, but only the elect."

The word of God is clear and yet you reject that truth so you can hold to your false religion of calvinism.
 
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Ascetic X

Active Member
If Christ died, not for the entire world as the Bible states, but only for the elect, you cannot tell anyone that Jesus died for their sins, because you cannot be sure that person is among the elect. So you have no gospel and no conversions.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
You do it all the time

BF for someone that claims to be a minister you show a lack of knowledge of the word of God. A child reading the bible can see that you are not holding to His word but rather you twist it or take it out of context in the attempt to support your man-made religion.

It is obvious that you are confused as you think your calvinism is superior to the word of God.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
BF for someone that claims to be a minister you show a lack of knowledge of the word of God. A child reading the bible can see that you are not holding to His word but rather you twist it or take it out of context in the attempt to support your man-made religion.

It is obvious that you are confused as you think your calvinism is superior to the word of God.
You can hurl insults, thats all you can do, except fight against truth
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
You can hurl insults, thats all you can do, except fight against truth

Not insults BF just the truth.

I posted a number of verses that disprove your view and your response "Everyone isnt forgiven, but only the elect." is just your opinion.

You do not provide any scripture to support your view BF.

You are holding onto a flawed view as it is the only thing that gives your life meaning.

You continue to deny the clear word of God.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Not insults BF just the truth.

I posted a number of verses that disprove your view and your response "Everyone isnt forgiven, but only the elect." is just your opinion.

You do not provide any scripture to support your view BF.

You are holding onto a flawed view as it is the only thing that gives your life meaning.

You continue to deny the clear word of God.
All you do is reject truth
 

Psalty

Member
I have plenty of threads for you to read and find out. Do you have anything to challenge how Christ redeems from unbelief ? Concentrate on that and see if you can refute my posts with scripture
Cant do it succinctly because its calvinist theology that you think is the Gospel!

I've read your posts, all you do is quote verses everyone agrees with, its just that you add calvinism to them!

The gospel is simple. Trust in Jesus to save you from your sins. No doubt you will try to add more to it! Some underlying sub context… from your mishmash of verses. But it is simple! Accept the truth!
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
All you do is reject truth

BF you have not provided any truth. Just your opinion.

BF you just continue to prove that you do not want truth.

You continue to reject the clear word of God as untrue because it does not fit your religious views.

Calvinism is false BF. It's foundation is pagan philosophy.

God's word is the standard you should be using to judge the truth of a comment not the man-made religion you use.
 
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