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Redeems those He died for from the Prison of Unbelief !

Brightfame52

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2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Thats not about blood redemption. Peter had already taught them about blood redemption by Christ here 1 Pet 1:18-19

18 forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Thats a different word for redeem by Christ and different results. So its incumbent on you to exegete 2 Pet 2:1 and explain how and why its the same as 1 Pet 1 and why it contradcits it.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Those He reconciled to God by His death and saved by His Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Do you believe this good news ?

BF I have shown you over and over that while the death of Christ reconciled the whole world to God it is only through faith in the risen Christ that anyone will be saved. That is just what Rom 5:10 shows us BF.

Of course I believe the good news of our salvation. I have been pointing it out to you in that verse but you continue to reject the truth.

Reconciliation is not salvation, we are saved by faith in the risen Christ.
Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

The real question is do you believe it?
 

Ascetic X

Active Member
Those whom He reconciled to God by His Death and shall save by His Life Rom 5:10
No. Jesus died for all, so whomever will, may come, and repent to receive the gift of eternal life.

Jesus died for:

John 3:17 the world
Hebrews 2:9 every man
1John 2:2 the whole world
1Timothy 2:5-6 for all
1Timothy 4:10 all men
Romans 5:6 the ungodly
Romans 5:8 sinners
2Corinthians 5:14-15 for all
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
BF I have shown you over and over that while the death of Christ reconciled the whole world to God it is only through faith in the risen Christ that anyone will be saved
Then you dont believe Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

It says they shall be saved by His Life, not through faith. So you dont believe the text you adding your tradition, handling the word deceitfully. Give credit to the death and life of Christ for salvation
 

Ascetic X

Active Member
Then you dont believe Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

It says they shall be saved by His Life, not through faith. So you dont believe the text you adding your tradition, handling the word deceitfully. Give credit to the death and life of Christ for salvation
Then you do not believe these verses that say Jesus died for….

John 3:17 the world
Hebrews 2:9 every man
1John 2:2 the whole world
1Timothy 2:5-6 for all
1Timothy 4:10 all men
Romans 5:6 the ungodly
Romans 5:8 sinners
2Corinthians 5:14-15 for all

As a Christian, I refrain from making insulting personal accusations against you like you did to me. I will not claim you handle the Word of God deceitfully. God is the judge.
 
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Silverhair

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Thats not about blood redemption. Peter had already taught them about blood redemption by Christ here 1 Pet 1:18-19

18 forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Thats a different word for redeem by Christ and different results. So its incumbent on you to exegete 2 Pet 2:1 and explain how and why its the same as 1 Pet 1 and why it contradcits it.

Odd that you should ask someone to do what you never do on this board.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Then you dont believe Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

It says they shall be saved by His Life, not through faith. So you dont believe the text you adding your tradition, handling the word deceitfully. Give credit to the death and life of Christ for salvation

BF you are being a complete fool when you post such dumb comments.

You cannot be as ill informed of the word of God as your posts suggest.
 

Psalty

Active Member
You want others to exegete and explain verses but you never do that.
Truth. Did you see how he ran away from 2 Peter 2:1? Literally contradicts what he says, but Goes to a completely different book so he doesnt have to answer. Reminds me of that Monty Python and the Holy Grail scene… “Run away! Run away!”

Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
Or you will also be like him.
Answer a fool as his folly deserves,
That he not be wise in his own eyes.
— Proverbs 26:4-5
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
BF you are being a complete fool when you post such dumb comments.
So it comes out to be you dont believe a word of Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

How are they saved according to this scripture
 

Psalty

Active Member
Exegete it
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
— 2 Peter 2:1
You are the one claiming Limited Atonement.

This verse was brought up to show that The Master (Jesus) bought false prophets that introduce destructive heresies.

It directly says it. There is nothing to exegete.

Your theology cant answer it, which is why you ran away to 1 Peter instead. But I am ready to hear you actually answer it.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
So it comes out to be you dont believe a word of Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

How are they saved according to this scripture

1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith;

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes

I have pointed it out to you numerous times BF and you still do not accept it .

God saves those that have freely trusted in the risen Christ.

By your own words BF you are a universalist. That is heresy.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith;

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes

I have pointed it out to you numerous times BF and you still do not accept it .

God saves those that have freely trusted in the risen Christ.

By your own words BF you are a universalist. That is heresy.
So it comes out to be you dont believe a word of Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

How are they saved according to this scripture
 
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