Reformed and Alcohol

[mont974x4]

I meant exactly what I said. In an effort to justify a man-centered theology and keep people in "holy" (which is just legalism and fear) you have to ignore Scriptures like Col 2, Romans 14, and Galatians which apply to our discussion on alcohol...just as you ignore Eph 1 and Romans 8 and 9 on Salvation So, no, Arminians/Wesleyans do not take God at His Word. That's what I have seen from my own experience with them as both a former Nazarene church member, Nazarene pastor, and while getting my degree from Nazarene Bible College.

 

[TC]

The short answer your question, "NEW" wine was not an intoxicant.

Remember the master of the feast questioning why the good tasting wine was served last? It contained no bitterness and therefore no fermentation.

The bible disagrees with you. It says in Acts 2:12-15


12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.


The people knew that new wine gets you drunk. You will note that Peter did not say that new wine was nothing but Welches grape juice and could not get someone drunk. He said that we are not drunk because it is too early and this is what is happening.

 

[convicted1]

I meant exactly what I said. In an effort to justify a man-centered theology and keep people in "holy" (which is just legalism and fear) you have to ignore Scriptures like Col 2, Romans 14, and Galatians which apply to our discussion on alcohol...just as you ignore Eph 1 and Romans 8 and 9 on Salvation So, no, Arminians/Wesleyans do not take God at His Word. That's what I have seen from my own experience with them as both a former Nazarene church member, Nazarene pastor, and while getting my degree from Nazarene Bible College.

We, too, take God at His word....just not YOUR interpretation of His word.