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Reformed Pastor Gushes Over Justin Bieber's New Tattoo

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Jerome

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CP: Justin Bieber's Jesus Tattoo Is a Powerful Symbol, Says Church Minister

"During Bieber’s recent vacation with girlfriend Selena Gomez in Hawaii, pictures of the young couple surfaced on the Web, revealing Bieber’s newest tattoo of a Hebrew inscription reading “Yeshua,” which means Jesus, vertically inked on the upper portion of his left ribcage."

Pastor Kyle Steven Bonenberger:

“Justin Bieber, he is probably arguably one of the biggest celebrities in the world right now. I think in his case, it's a pretty powerful way of saying ‘I follow Jesus.’”
 
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That must mean everyone with a fish sticker on their car is also a Christ follower! I better get one!
 
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Chessic

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'Bout the same as wearing a cross on a necklace or bracelet, which is nothing more than a fashion statement for most people. Tattoos are very much the rage right now and religious symbols are more for show than sincere messages.
 
Jerome

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annsni said:
I wonder what the full context is and if there was more to it than that.
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Did you miss the Church Chat television program several weeks ago?

USA TODAY—Justin Bieber Film Packed With Prayer
Bieber's faith is on display in the new 3-D concert film/documentary Justin Bieber: Never Say Never, which hits theaters Friday (Feb. 11). Paramount Pictures has screened the movie for faith leaders across the country and distributed spiritual discussion guides — the same tools used to promote The Passion of the Christ and The Blind Side as family-friendly fare.
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Bieber has never shied away from faith. He was singing Christian songs on YouTube before he became famous. His born-again Christian mother Pattie Mallette has shared her spiritual conversion on a Christian TV show and openly shares her beliefs and Bible verses with 281,000-plus Twitter followers.
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Prayer clip from the movie
 
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Marketing 101, his shelf life is about over and the dude is just trying to extend his 15 minutes of fame, by trying to tap into the "Christian" market.
 
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Jerome said:
Did you miss the Church Chat television program several weeks ago?

USA TODAY—Justin Bieber Film Packed With Prayer




Prayer clip from the movie
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Yeah, honestly Justin Bieber is not what we'd do a Bible study on. ;)

But honestly, I'd love to read the transcript of what the pastor said. Did he say it to be sarcastic and go on to speak about how we really show our faith? So often things can be taken out of context so I'd reserve judgment until I was sure what was going on.
 
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For what its worth it seems Justin is a pretty quality guy who is following Jesus while impacting others. As I understand it he has a personal chaplain on tour with him.

I'm happy he spelled it right. :)
 
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annsni said:
Who was this given to? Does this Scripture apply to all of Christianity? If so, what do we do with the other 600-some laws?
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You mean like this one? Given to the same people in the same breath in the same context, to answer your question. Dunno, you tell me what we do with them.
 
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Matt Black said:
You mean like this one? Given to the same people in the same breath in the same context, to answer your question. Dunno, you tell me what we do with them.
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And that was reiterated in the New Testament - but we're not under the "law". What do we do about the relations with a wife after her bleeding stops? What about the mixed fabric? There are a TON of laws there - but are we under the law?
 
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Crucified in Christ said:
Well, I do not know Bieber personally as apparently you do, but he was claiming to be a Christian well before he was popular.
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Your right, I should not have commented. I know absolutely nothing about the kid other than he is a pop star/teen idol, has a lot of hair, and he was on an episode of CSI. I've never heard any of his music, subscribed to his twitter account, bought his t-shirts/posters at Wal-Mart, nor have I read his autobiography (If he has one). I was simply making an ill-informed generalization. I'm sure he is a perfect role model for the youth of today.
 
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Thousand Hills said:
Your right, I should not have commented. I know absolutely nothing about the kid other than he is a pop star/teen idol, has a lot of hair, and he was on an episode of CSI. I've never heard any of his music, subscribed to his twitter account, bought his t-shirts/posters at Wal-Mart, nor have I read his autobiography (If he has one). I was simply making an ill-informed generalization. I'm sure he is a perfect role model for the youth of today.
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Recently I made a 4 hr plane trip and one of this young man's specials was shown on the many viewing stations in the plane. I had spent the 2 dollars for the headset and was listening to the music and etc.

I came across his special which was on the screens and watched for a while.

It seemed like a lot of prancing, dancing, jumping and gyrations which IMO was a skirting of the more erotic type dancing done by other (present and late) Hollywood moguls which I had seen.

There also seemed a kind of audience participation which also mimicked the worship of Hollywood stars, weeping, rapture, swooning and adoration, also an obsessing with clothes, hair, etc to enhance his popularity which appeared unhealthy in my estimation.

This and all the prayer stuff mixed in as well.

It seemed to me a mixed message.

This passage went through my mind:

1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world...

But then again I am being somewhat hypocritical as I am an "old geezer" with my own age related set of worldly influences to ensnare me.​

No, we are not under the law.​

Tattoos for the children of God? The test of faith, the leading of the Spirit and the glory of God applies.​

The just shall live by faith (Hab 2:4, Rom 1:17, Gal 3:11, Heb 10:38).​

Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.​

1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.​

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.​

I don't know, it just seemed a mixed message to me and a "gateway drug" into the more sensuous type of current rock star presentations.​

HankD​
 
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As long as this thread has morphed into a discussion of the 613 statements, Christians have always picked the ones they want to observe and make excuses for not observing the rest.
 
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Look, I have two tattoos from my sinner days. I am not lambasting the kid, but it one wants to "show" Christ, do it with your life, and not your body. I can find a "sot" slumped over in an alley, and put a Jesus shirt and hat on him/her, and that does not make them saved. Let your light so shine, and this is through our daily communications with the lost. A Jesus shirt on a hog, is still a hog......
 
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