NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Does that mean they will refuse his coming directives to pull out of Iraq and stay there?
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No Roger, this is all for nothing... It's Grandstanding at it's best. We all know Obama is POTUS, but I guess some people just won't let it go. When the ones of us that didn't vote for him or like him respects the office too much to think they would let ANYONE not qualified in the running with all the vetting process he had to go through.C4K said:Does that mean they will refuse his coming directives to pull out of Iraq and stay there?
LadyEagle said:I guess they could since it is a volunteer military.
Same for the Navy !Crabtownboy said:Refuse a direct order from any superior officer, and the Commander In Chief is about as superior as you can go, and bad things will happen to you. It makes not a whit of difference whether you agree with the order or not.
GI's love to grouse, complain and say things. At least they did when I was in the Army. As the old saying goes, "When the troops stop complaining you know there is big trouble."
Bro. Curtis said:I will say, on the other hand, that when generals started turning against the war in Iraq, some on the left held them up as heroes. So there is some inconsistency on their part.
Bro. Curtis said:I am in agreement with the sentiment of this thread. Nobody in the military has the right to question the Commander In Chief. Volunteer service or not.
I will say, on the other hand, that when generals started turning against the war in Iraq, some on the left held them up as heroes. So there is some inconsistency on their part.
Bro. Curtis said:I don't get your point. I am against the Iraq invasion, and it doesn't matter to me who started it. I am saying this general is seen as bad, and rightly so. But when Bush was in office, they weren't such bad guys.
Ok. after further consideration, you must be wondering if they didn't recognize W as CIC, due to the election being stolen ?
I am talking about these guys...
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/266638_solarosub16.html
C4K said:Does that mean they will refuse his coming directives to pull out of Iraq and stay there?
What you refuse to consider is that the loyalty of these soldiers is to a higher power than the President—the Constitution. Your saying that the matter is settled or trivial doesn't make it so. Civil wars and coup d'etats were initiated over lesser things.C4K said:Does that mean they will refuse his coming directives to pull out of Iraq and stay there?
Being a volunteer army has nothing to do with it. These soldiers take the same oath as soldiers that are drafted. If they refuse to obey orders they are in trouble.LadyEagle said:I guess they could since it is a volunteer military. But who would want to?
Aaron said:What you refuse to consider is that the loyalty of these soldiers is to a higher power than the President—the Constitution. Your saying that the matter is settled or trivial doesn't make it so. Civil wars and coup d'etats were initiated over lesser things.
If you don't consider Obama's actions concerning this matter are in the least suspicious, you don't possess the discernment required to be commenting on it.
JustChristian said:Being a volunteer army has nothing to do with it. These soldiers take the same oath as soldiers that are drafted. If they refuse to obey orders they are in trouble.
JamieinNH said:No Roger, this is all for nothing... It's Grandstanding at it's best. We all know Obama is POTUS, but I guess some people just won't let it go. When the ones of us that didn't vote for him or like him respects the office too much to think they would let ANYONE not qualified in the running with all the vetting process he had to go through.
Let's waste more tax dollars, let's put our military at risk and continue to spin our wheels all for nothing..
Obama would produce a gold plated BC and even that wouldn't help some people. They need a place to vent and this happens to be it.
If these "soliders" were really wanting to take a stand, I would like to see them stay and defy the orders to come home, but we know that won't happen and this group of people that won't accept Obama as POTUS will have all kinds of reasons why they shouldn't do that very thing...
ray Marshall said:Lets put a standing army down at the Texas-Arizona-California-mexico border where the real threat is at our backdoor. We need to anilate those Mexican drug cartel.