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Refutation of Rick Norris "Unbound Scriptures"

robycop3

robycop3

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Baptist4life said:
Same thing I posted in #6. But I'll repeat it for you, then I'm done. All I've gotten out of this is a headache.
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Headache? If so, you made it yourself.

Why did you not take a shot at Mr. Norris, or support him, insteada trying to derail the thread with goofy stuff?

The reason I won't answer your stuff here is simple...THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT FORUM FOR IT! I'd be contributing to the misture and codwallop if I went off track to pursue your bunny trail.

MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE RANCH...

Dr. Ach, your citing of Mr. Kinney as an "authority" on translation and hermeneutics of of refuting Mr. Norris is as citing Junior Samples as an authority on neurosurgery. Mr. Kinney'e unwritten motto is "My KJVO Doctrine, Right Or Wrong".
 
robycop3

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preacher4truth said:
I support him on his KJVO stance. I have no interest in the inside story you two are bringing into this thread. Keep it between you two behind the scenes?
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SHE brought it up, not I. However, I have a quick temper, and DO respond to attacks. That's one of my many faults. I shoulda just ignored her.

And again, I've been here 13 years; my beliefs are not secret. There are over 7K posts by me here in the archives or active forums, available for public perusal. And I've been on the net since its inception, always under either robycop3 or Steelmaker. Anyone any time can see what I believe. I'm just not gonna discuss it here, as this forum is meant for other things.
 
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Baptist4life said:
My point is that you have someone on here making demands (roby) for Scriptural support, when he has NO Scriptural support for his weird belief! I believe that's VERY relevant. Also very hypocritical! Mexdeaf, I'm saddened that apparently others on here think heretical beliefs should just be "overlooked" because that person is on the same side as them!!!! If you really knew what roby believes, I think you'd change your mind about my posts.
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You're arguing about apples and the discussion is about oranges.

If you want to discuss the "weird and heretical beliefs" of others, just start another thread.
 
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Logos1560 said:
Any objective reader that has actually read my 500+ page book can see that Will Kinney's so-called refutation of it does not answer nor deal with my actual arguments and the important documented evidence in it. My book provides the clear evidence of the fact of his misrepresentations and distortion since his strawman picture does not accurately present the actual points made in it.
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When Will Kinney's strawman arguments, misrepresentations, and distortion does not actually deal with what the proper points made and supported by sound evidence, there was no need to respond to them.If some of his arguments or accusations were supposedly valid, he would undermining or refuting the actual foundation on which the KJV was made.

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Here is a brief section from Part Two of that person's comments:
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Rick, I didn't ask for someone else's opinion of your book. I asked for YOUR rebuttal of his review of your book. In detail, exactly what is/are his "misrepresentations and distortion" of your work?

mis·rep·re·sent
verb (used with object) - mis·rep·re·sen·ta·tion, noun
1. to represent incorrectly, improperly, or falsely.
2. to represent in an unsatisfactory manner

Synonyms
Misrepresent, distort, falsify, belie share the sense of presenting information in a way that does not accord with the truth. Misrepresent usually involves a deliberate intention to deceive, either for profit or advantage: The dealer misrepresented the condition of the car. Distort implies a purposeful twisting or emphasizing of certain statements so as to produce an inaccurate or misleading impresssion: cleverly distorting the facts to create an impression of his own innocence. Falsify suggests a tampering with or alteration of facts, records, or documents, especially with the intent to cheat or deceive: He falsified the birth records to conceal his age. Belie means to create an impression that is inconsistent with the facts, or that contradicts other evidence but it does not usually suggest intent to deceive: Her casual, relaxed manner belies her insecurity. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/misrepresentation
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While the context is different, you wrote:
These are just a few of the inconsistencies and contradictions between what KJV-only advocates seem to know and what they seem to suppose. KJV-only advocates have failed to fulfill their responsibility to prove what they only suppose, surmise, or affirm. The speculations, assumptions, and suppositions of KJV-only advocates should not be accepted until they provide consistent, positive proof and evidence that their suppositions and opinions are actually true. http://www.unboundscriptures.com/only-supposing-and-not-knowing/
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Why should I accept your condemnation of Kinney's review of your book before you provide "consistent, positive proof and evidence that" his "suppositions and opinions" are not true? He has stated his case. Will you state yours?
 
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Logos1560

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The consistent, positive proof of Will McKinney's subjective misrepresentations and incorrect portrayal of my view is found in my book and in my other writings including my posts.

Anyone can check out the evidence for themselves by reading and comparing both if they are willing to make the effort.

You were properly given an example of how someone checked the claims of McKinney out for themselves and found them to be incorrect.
 
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Since I've made no KJVO claims, I don't need to supply support for it. I simply said both sides have been arguing it for years, each having valid points. I neither support nor reject it. Frankly, I just don't see it as the terrible evil the rest of you seem to. I find Calvinism much more damaging, but that's a whole different topic.
 
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Baptist4life said:
Since I've made no KJVO claims, I don't need to supply support for it. I simply said both sides have been arguing it for years, each having valid points. I neither support nor reject it. Frankly, I just don't see it as the terrible evil the rest of you seem to. I find Calvinism much more damaging, but that's a whole different topic.
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Then you are not as balanced as you pretend to be B4L. You badly need some biblical discernment. And for you to say that Calvinism is a whole lot worse is to evidence your shallow theology.
 
robycop3

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Baptist4life said:
Since I've made no KJVO claims, I don't need to supply support for it. I simply said both sides have been arguing it for years, each having valid points. I neither support nor reject it. Frankly, I just don't see it as the terrible evil the rest of you seem to. I find Calvinism much more damaging, but that's a whole different topic.
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POSTS like a KJVO...

AGREES with KJVOs...

ACTS like a KJVO...
 
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