Regarding Genesis and the beginning of all things...

[Alive in Christ]

In Genesis we have what appears to be 2 different accounts of the biginning of all things

The 1st one ...Genesis 1:26-2:3

26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[a] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. 30 Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so. 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.


Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

The 2nd one...Genesis 2:4-2-25

4 This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.

7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

8 The LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9 And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
10 Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. 11 The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Cush. 14 The name of the third river is Hiddekel; it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates.
15 Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

18 And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.” 19 Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.

21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22 Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.
23 And Adam said:
“This is now bone of my bones
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

I would be interested in any and all views regarding this.

And also, does anyone believe that Clarence Larkins view that there was a pre-adamic human population, but for some reason unknown to us, God destroyed it for some reason, and staerted over?

Thanks

 

[th1bill]

In Genesis we have what appears to be 2 different accounts of the biginning of all things

The 1st one ...Genesis 1:26-2:3








The 2nd one...Genesis 2:4-2-25



I would be interested in any and all views regarding this.

And also, does anyone believe that Clarence Larkins view that there was a pre-adamic human population, but for some reason unknown to us, God destroyed it for some reason, and staerted over?

Thanks

What you´re pointing out has, over the years, been kicked around quite a bit and to understand it you need to study Ancient Hebrew Culture. When Moses recorded the first five books, the Pentateuch, the only means of adding emphases was to repeat and this often occurred by telling the point from more than one perspective and that is what you have here.

¡Worthy of note! Anytime God says something in scripture more than once it serves a body well to pay attention.

It has been 18 or 19 years since I did any study on this and as much as i should never say this, I do not recall titles for study here.

 

[Dr. Walter]

In Genesis we have what appears to be 2 different accounts of the biginning of all things

The 1st one ...Genesis 1:26-2:3








The 2nd one...Genesis 2:4-2-25



I would be interested in any and all views regarding this.

And also, does anyone believe that Clarence Larkins view that there was a pre-adamic human population, but for some reason unknown to us, God destroyed it for some reason, and staerted over?

Thanks

The Pre-adamic race theory completely invalidates Romans 5:12-18. Either sin entered into the world by one man - Adam - and sin destruction, death or it did not. No New Testament writer attributes sin, destruction, death to anyone but Adam.

Genesis 1:1 declares God created the present heavens and earth. Genesis 1:2-2:4 provides a day by day account of how God created the heavens and earth. Genesis 2:5-3:18 provides additional necessary explanatory information to understand the nature of marriage and the fall and why man was removed from the garden. Without these additional details there would be no backdrop to understand marriage or the fall of man.

 

[billwald]

Genesis was compiled during Babylonian Captivity. Repeating information in two different ways is a Hebrew writing style.

 

[revmwc]

In Genesis we have what appears to be 2 different accounts of the biginning of all things

The 1st one ...Genesis 1:26-2:3








The 2nd one...Genesis 2:4-2-25



I would be interested in any and all views regarding this.

And also, does anyone believe that Clarence Larkins view that there was a pre-adamic human population, but for some reason unknown to us, God destroyed it for some reason, and staerted over?

Thanks

The first is the Holy Spirit giving to Moses (commonly felt to have writtent it) the way in which God created mankind. So we might call it the Godward record.
Now it has been told to me that in ancient world that the head of the family wouldcarry a staff similar to that of a shepherd and on that staff ould be recorded the family history, event after event births etc. would be recorded on the top of the staff. Then each head of the family would pass that staff down to the son he chose to be the next head of family, so Adam to Seth and so on. The Genesis 2 portion would be from the records passed along on the staff and then finally placed in a written form in Gensis, notice it quickly moves from Adam to the next generation till we see Noah and then after the flood it moves quickly to Abaha and then slows that would be when the most information really was traceable. Summary on Abrahams staff transfered down through time. So chapter two would be historical information from the staffs and inspired through the Holy Spirit to Moses.

Larkin and there is a book by M.R. DeHahn earths earliest ages and the Ice Age that talk about a older earth that God created the globe we live on then The teaching satan sinned and was cast to the earth and Ice formed on it because angels hate ice and thus Satan's temporary punishment was to live on an Ice covered earth.
Then God reformed the earth in Genesis 1:2 and begin to make it habitable for man and created man. The teaching also talks about the Dinasaurs having lived here until Satan sinned and the Ice Age came and they died. But all of this was done in order that man would have resources to live by.
This is my understanding of it as I was taught it and read parts of the books. Someone else may have more on this but those two books by M.R. Dehaan sill help if they are still in print.
I hold to a much younger earth not the Gap theory and the Ice Age science from a spiritual stand point doesn't bear that out.

 

[Dr. Walter]

Genesis was compiled during Babylonian Captivity. Repeating information in two different ways is a Hebrew writing style.

The new Testament writers were Post-Babylon in time and they believed that Moses wrote Genesis and so did Christ. Whatever compilation occurred during the Babylonian Captivity was primarily arrangement of materials rather than origination of materials. I don't know of any evidence that Genesis 2 was Babylonic in origin and Jesus certainly denied it was as he directly quotes from Genesis 2 and attributes it solely to Moses.