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Regarding John 3:16, which do you prefer?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by alexander284, Dec 29, 2019.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    The recognized gold standard of greek lexicons disagrees with you!
     
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    well, Dr Robertson and the Bagd disagree with you!
     
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    Actually, Nkjv/Nas translations....
     
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    Again, the standard Greek lexicon and the greatest NT Greek scholar all time disagree with you!
     
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    that link actually undermines your position, more than supporting it!
     
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    I said not as good as Dr Roberston, not that he was not good!
     
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    I appreciate your insight and attitude towards the discussion....but yeah...we are out of time.

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    ...and how do you judge Roberston to be greater than Wallace. This is a claim that cannot be proven or disproven.

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    The consensus is in, monogenes as used in scripture means unique or one of a kind. Full Stop
     
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    Why push provincialism, the meaning as used in scripture is not begotten, but unique or one of a kind.
     
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    Denial of deflection, finding fault where none exists. Monogenes as used in scripture means unique or one of a kind. A different Greek word is used for only begotten. Face facts.
     
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    Denial and deflection.
     
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    Me? What about Dr. Wallace? What about the NIV translation team. What about the ESV translation team. What about the CSB translation team. What about the WEB translation team., What about the NLT translation team. What about the LEB translation team. What about the NET translation team. You have ignored all the evidence, demonstrating willful ignorance for the sake of provincialism.
     
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    There's a certain thickness about you. Once again, to be a New Testament scholar in the realm of textual criticism one would have to be rather proficient in Greek. Without the later one could not be the former. Get it now? Probably not.
     
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    What’s provincialism got to do with it?

    Oh, I guess you mean the preferred view popularized in the past 60 or 70 years? Yes, right, we should not be so provincial and narrow! Why not look at it across 2000 years of church history instead? Probably shouldn’t look at just new translations in only English either. What have other language translations done with it, and across a broad span of time?
     
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    It is in looking at the historical meaning that modern scholars concluded monogenes as used in scripture means unique or one of a kind. Therefore to cling to the mistaken translations of the past, as described in this thread, is provincialism. Note a different Greek word means only begotten. Thus the correct view looks at the usage of 2000 years ago.
     
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    He is accepted as the single greatest NT Greek scholar of his century, while Dr Wallace is not!
     
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    BAGD, standard Greek lexicon, disagrees with you on this!
     
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    What about the Kkjv and Nas translators, they got their degrees from the Greek mail in courses?
     
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    Guess no one even knew Biblical greek before dr wallace!
     
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