Religion of Envy

[Me2]

DHK,

universal reconciliation only states that THEY dont believe in an eternal punishment but a temporary punishment in "hell". and eventually returning to God in heaven.

I dont. my understanding is far more than that.

I stand with a belief that there is NO "hell" of punishment after death.
although there is a removal of all memories from the human race that doesnt glorify God.

maybe you can call that "hell".

but the body of Christ is chosen by God himself and we then choose within that Group if we will surrender to the will of God and become a living sacrifices before God. That insures that the human race will be remembered through Gods standards.

and life goes on through the ages with men representing the sons of God and a memorial to the Gods grace and love towards mankind as seen through the memorial through the overcomers lives.

no one elses life will be remembered as it did not glorify God. one has to be able to "store their treasures in heaven" retaining their life as a living testament for all men to witness.

those are only the people who would have the keys...those who accept jesus christ as their lord and savior. the young men. only their lives who are "hidden in christ"

thats the reason Jesus came to Earth in the MIDDLE of Gods Salvic Plan of man. not the beginning or the end but to give men the spirit and instructions on how to live within its perameters.

interesting that God does choose who will be called. We as individuals further the choice by choosing to surrender (or do we?).

although we have no way to determine who gets called or who is chosen. we are Gods creation
and do not have a stake other than to choose for ourselves what will happen towards us.

I look at this as, if there is anything in the world that is dishonouring before God, that an individual will instantly choose to be rid of it from their memory. when all men and women of Gods creation learns this. they will choose to no longer retain those thoughts and memories.

they only thing left in mankinds future is the occurances of man as he existed within God himself.

Thats why God allows mankind to receive his spirit before their own time of physical death.

as a memorial..

do you have treasures in heaven ?

Me2

 

[DHK]

Originally posted by Singer:
DHK:

Okay....your position is:

We need a savior and we have one in Jesus Christ


And my position is :

We need a savior and we have one in Jesus Christ

If we can agree on that, then I've got to go and make myself a worldly
living and quit worrying about the mysteries of God.

Please say YES !! .

Singer

Never quit studying the Word of God, Singer.
Concerning John 8:24, consider briefly what Jamieson, Faucett, and Brown said again:

"if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins--They knew well enough what He meant (Mr 13:6, Greek; compare Mt 24:5). But He would not, by speaking it out, give them the materials for a charge for which they were watching. At the same time, one is irresistibly reminded by such language, so far transcending what is becoming in men, of those ancient declarations of the God of Israel, "I AM HE" (De 32:39; Isa 43:10; 46:4; 48:12)."

If you believe not that I AM HE, referring to the Jehovah of the Old Testament, you shall die in your sins. It was a direct reference to his deity. That is the way the Jews took. They were angered by his statement because it was a claim to deity.

In order for Christ to be your Saviour He must be God.
Isa. 43:11 "Beside me (Jehovah) there is no Saviour.
Yet we know that Christ is our Saviour. The Bible does not contradict itself. Christ is Jehovah, i.e. God.
DHK

 

[Singer]

Amen
Please say ''Yes".

Singer

 

[DHK]

Originally posted by Singer:
Amen
Please say ''Yes".

Singer

I think we have finally agreed.

DHK

 

[AITB]

DHK, I didn't have any comments on your most recent reply to me so... Happy Easter!

Helen

 

[3AngelsMom]

Originally posted by DHK:
3AM believes in two gods, a greater god, and a lesser god. She is polytheistic. She does not believe in the deity of Christ. Her idea of Christ being god, is not the same as our concept of Christ being God, the one and only God. Her belief is a heretical belief, along with a denial of the trinity. This is not simply a learning process; it is a denial of truth. If a J.W., Mormon, Sikh, or Hindu, denies the truth about God, do you not think we have the right to conclude that one is not saved. The Bible commands us to "judge righteous judgement."
DHK

I do not believe in two God's DHK. I have tried and tried to explain this to you. My definition of the word 'god' is the same definition that Jesus used when He spoke to the leadership of Israel. He said 'YOU are gods'.

The Bible identified Jesus to us as these things:

Jesus is the SON of the Living God.
Jesus is the SON of the MOST HIGH GOD.
Jesus is the ONLY Begotten of the Father.
Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of ALL Creation.
Jesus is the FIRSTFRUITS from the dead.
Jesus is the ONLY Righteous Judge. (that eliminates YOU).
Jesus is the ONE Lord.

You DO NOT have the right to conclude that ANYONE is saved or unsaved. YOU ARE TOTALLY wrong in your thinking that you have the right to do so.

Man looks at the outward, God looks on the heart. You do not know my heart. You have no idea what the fruit of my life is.

You are in no position to make judgments in the way that you have.

Riddle me this DHK:

I believed in the trinity when I 'got saved'.

How do you reconcile my DISBELIEF NOW, with your belief in 'once saved always saved'?

Has my CURRENT disbelief caused me to LOSE my Salvation, which is based on Faith in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour through the Grace that God has given to me through His Son?

You have a problem.

The Bible is REALLY clear on something that is TOTALLY opposite of what you are trying to assert about me.

Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Joh 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Joh 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

There isn't even anything that I need to add to that because JESUS just said it all!