Religious beliefs of the founding fathers

[Winman]

It was a Calvinistic mindset that resulted in millions of American Indians being slaughtered because they were "heathens" by "the elect". Adolf Hitler was actually a big fan of the "Indian Removal" program in America.

Adolph Hitler borrowed liberally from the American model. Many methods of Hitler’s Final Solution were "inspired by the U.S. government’s subjugation of the American Indian…. He often praised the efficiency of America’s extermination of the [Indians]." Hitler referred to Slavic peoples as "redskins."[31]

Again, racism became a tool of greed. Anyone in Hitler’s way or anyone who had resources he needed was fair game. Nazis were to show no mercy to subhumans, and should "delight in killing and displacing them and stealing their property…"[32]

During the Nuremberg trials, Hitler’s No. 2 man, Hermann Goering, insisted Nazi policy had been identical to U.S policy toward Native Americans.33 But the holocaust in the Americas outdid the Nazis’ Final Solution many times over: "The destruction of the Indians in the Americas was far and away the most massive act of genocide in the history of the world," writes historian David E. Stannard.34 Stannard estimates about 12 million Native Americans died as a result of ethnic cleansing in the U.S. and Canada; 68 to 90 million died in the entire western hemisphere.[35]

When you believe you are an elect people loved by God and that everyone else is inferior and fated to be destroyed by God, it is easy to help God out.

This is Calvinistic thought.

 

[Jerome]

LOL:

Below are the religious views of the signers of the Constitution.

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Massachusetts

* Elbridge Gerry, EPISCOPALIAN -- Calvinist

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Huh?

Study history or shut-up.

 

[Thomas Helwys]

It was a Calvinistic mindset that resulted in millions of American Indians being slaughtered because they were "heathens" by "the elect". Adolf Hitler was actually a big fan of the "Indian Removal" program in America.



When you believe you are an elect people loved by God and that everyone else is inferior and fated to be destroyed by God, it is easy to help God out.

This is Calvinistic thought.

Yes indeed. That is correct.

 

[Thomas Helwys]

LOL:



Huh?

Study history or shut-up.

:laugh: :thumbs:

 

[Thomas Helwys]

Thomas, you ignored about 75 percent of my argument and went off on some unrelated tangent.

I am familiar with the Oxford movement in the 1800's but what that has to do with the theology of the episcopalean founders of this nation is beyond me.

Furthermore, the Church of England sought to embrace primarily Catholic liturgy but primarily Protestant theology.

That the Puritans were almost exclusively Calvinists is beyond argument. That they represented the vast majority of Anglicanism in the colonies up until about 1700 is without question.

That the Great awakening that preimpted the Revolutionary War further "calvinized" the colonies even more than they already were is clear. Particular Baptists, for example, as a result, became known simply as Regular Baptists.

Finally, I've not said anything blatantly inaccurate about the history of Anglicanism so this smug comment about "you ought to study anglicanist history" mess, aside from being pompous and insulting, is uncalled for.

:laugh:

Most of what you've said about the history of Anglicanism is inaccurate, as I have shown you. Further, to claim that every Anglican founding father was a Calvinist is ludicrous. The Puritans were always a minority in the Anglican Church.

You have the nerve to label what I wrote pompous, insulting, and smug after the things you've posted here, including threads you've started? :laugh:

You say you don't like mealy-mouth Christians and you want straight talk, so I gave you that. You should thus be delighted and thanking me for it. So, as I said, go now, young man,and study Anglicanism to show thyself approved.

 

[Thomas Helwys]

I know.... I appreciated your post. I found it humorous because you single-handedly instantly destroyed a favourite Zeitgeist of some people on this board...
I had also seen the Helwys confession before, as I am a regular denizen of EA.org which you linked to.

I LIKED your post....that was an "atta-boy" Thomas...just accept it and don't get defensive.

Okay, and I appreciate that and thank you very much for your words. I wasn't quite sure what you meant, so that's why I didn't blast you. I didn't want to misread you and then have to repent. :laugh:

 

[Winman]

You say you don't like mealy-mouth Christians and you want straight talk, so I gave you that.

Yes, Luke hates soft, sentimental, "touchy-feely" persons.

 

[rsr]

Thread closed: All heat, no light.